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SURVEYLTD
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First forgive my ignorance, but I'm self taught in Autocad and I think I missed a few chapters......

We draw everyting the way it is on the ground- meaning North is at top of page and our coords match the linework

I am preparing some drawings where the engineer will be doing cross sections and will rotate my drawing so that north is at the right(east) side of the paper. When he does that, he has to rotatate all my text so that it looks right.

Is there some way where I can preserve my co-ords(not rotate them), and draw my drawing the way he wants to see them for his finished plat. My main goal is that his drawing look correct, but I don't want to move co-ords.

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Posted : November 5, 2013 9:29 am
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Going to need some more information. What CAD are you using and the version? Some of these guys go back to the days of survcad!


 
Posted : November 5, 2013 9:31 am
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You want to "twist" the view as I recall. It just changes the view your looking at it from, and not the direction of north. I haven't used AutoCAD in a while, so I am not sure how to get to "twist view". I'm sure you get some more explicit answers here, though.


 
Posted : November 5, 2013 9:33 am
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You are going to laugh ---- still acad12 & softdesk

never had to do this before...


 
Posted : November 5, 2013 9:47 am
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If you type in "DVIEW", then pick the Twist option, you can specify the direction of the drawing without rotating the linework/coordinates.


 
Posted : November 5, 2013 9:56 am

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Issue UCS command to select direction of your new N-E.
At command prompt write PLAN and select current UCS.
The drawing is rotated to your current UCS. Co-ordinates are rotated.
Re-issue commands UCS and PLAN to go to your world (normal) N-E.
You use WORLD co-ordinates and the engineer uses Current UCS coordinates.
Do not import or write world co-ordinates into current UCS co-ordinates,
because Autocad assumes you mean current co-ordinates.


 
Posted : November 5, 2013 10:05 am
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DVIEW=>Twist:-)


 
Posted : November 5, 2013 10:08 am
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DVIEW then TWIST....that will twist the view of the drawing while preserving the coordinates and North-South, East-West Axis.


 
Posted : November 5, 2013 11:24 am
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Acad 12 was the ultimate in autocad-after that it was downhill. I would never laugh at someone using it-I'm too jealous.


 
Posted : November 5, 2013 12:22 pm
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Dangerous.

Most engineers don't look for a UCS before they start working.
Dview /Twist is much safer if you don't know the other operator.


 
Posted : November 5, 2013 5:09 pm

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I have the DOS version of R12 with Softdesk on a Win98 machine that a lightning strike damaged my motherboard

What computer and system are you running it on?

I can operate that in my sleep and am hunting and pecking right now learning Carlson.

I have rotated and translated my coords to match others environment before.

Like the others, DVIEW & TWIST is the way.

😉


 
Posted : November 5, 2013 5:46 pm
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Not really dangerous at all ...
In R12, when the the UCS is set back to World, the cross-hairs are rotated on the screen, but still related to North.
Most architects would notice the orientation just on that alone.
I do this frequently. Mostly when setting up orientation parameters from our photogrammetric stereo plotter.


 
Posted : November 5, 2013 6:09 pm
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> Issue UCS command to select direction of your new N-E.
> At command prompt write PLAN and select current UCS.
> The drawing is rotated to your current UCS. Co-ordinates are rotated.
> Re-issue commands UCS and PLAN to go to your world (normal) N-E.
> You use WORLD co-ordinates and the engineer uses Current UCS coordinates.
> Do not import or write world co-ordinates into current UCS co-ordinates,
> because Autocad assumes you mean current co-ordinates.

I did it this way also.

All I can add is to SAVE your "current USC" so you can easily recall it later.
Make doubly sure the UCS icon has a W (world view) in it before doing any softdesk commands.

This procedure is not for the faint of heart and should only be used if fully understood, otherwise just use the other way.


 
Posted : November 6, 2013 5:46 am
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Same deal Dos; acad12 on a win98


 
Posted : November 6, 2013 10:36 am
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Then use snapang to get your courser back to ortho .


 
Posted : November 6, 2013 12:13 pm

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I might mention , you can use alignspace, (same effect as dview/twist in model space) in paper space and it will only rotate that paper space view and leave model space alone .


 
Posted : November 6, 2013 12:15 pm
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DCA/Softdesk

I suggest you rehash those skipped chapters in your Softdesk survey docs.

When we used R12/Softdesk...at the start of your drawing project....Drawing Setup - North Rotation was Softdesk's simple way to perform your task.


 
Posted : November 6, 2013 12:34 pm
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I recommend setting up a layout tab and then use the DVIEW command with the TWIST option. Then model space will always be "north" while the model space in your layout tab will be rotated to fit the paper. You can use the SNAPANG command to keep ortho horizontal and vertical in your model space in the layout tab.


 
Posted : November 8, 2013 7:17 am