Rotating view in paper space without affecting coordinates

view -> twist screen

standard = lets you "rotate view" dynamically

line, polyline, text= lets you pick object to "rotate view"

surveyor = lets you key in azimuth

none of above will change coordinates, experiment with copy of drawing.

What Ozzy said.  Run away from UCS!

UCS is the spawn of the Devil. Follow the righteous path, and use DVIEW > TWIST.

If you want to use ORTHO (F8) for linework and text orientation across the screen, set SNAPANG to the negative of your dview twist angle.

For example:

DVIEW > TWIST > 35

SNAPANG > -35

Thank you for the help all. I'll give this a go in the am. Right now I'm so tired I can't think straight. 

Willy out.

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I don't know how it works in Intellicad, but in Carlson with autocad the easy way is to go to

View, Twist Screen and Line or polyline and pick the line that you want to be horizontal in the viewport. It will not change anything else.

I usually twist both model and viewport to the same line.

UCS > OBject [OB] > [select an object]

Plan > [Enter] > [Enter]

This will rotate UCS

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Plan > World [W]

UCS > World [W]

These or combination of these will restore your view

UCS > OBject [OB] > [select an object]

Plan > [Enter] > [Enter]

This will rotate UCS

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Plan > World [W]

UCS > World [W]

These or combination of these will restore your view

Do not use the ucs rotate, that changes your coordinate system.  Use twist screen options in Carlson or DView option in Autocad

I use UCS, but never in the same drawing as the model. What I do is XREF (attach) the model I want to rotate into a new drawing, and create paper space viewports. Switch to model space in any of the viewports, and rotate the UCS Z axis. This gives me a drawing I can print for presentation. I would only calculate coordinates in the original drawing of the model.

@williwaw  I will have to try some of the commands listed above. Personally, I use "MVSETUP"

MVSETUP allows me to rotate the viewport angle with no affect to the UCS.   

Very helpful thread. Big thank you to everyone. 

It the plan was generated on your original survey coordinates use WCS and your points will drop right in where they belong.  This is a common problem when drafters rotate their views for what is convenient to them.

UCS enter

3 enter

Pick 2 points on the X axis then a third in the direction of positive Y

dducs and name your new UCS

In the viewport, PLAN enter enter. Viewport rotates to the new UCS.

now you can set the UCS back to world.

Been doing it this way since 1990.

The sweet thing about MVSETUP is that I'm not messing with the UCS at all. It only rotates the viewport orientation.  I can have multiple viewports on one sheet in paperspace and each one can have it's own orientation/ rotation. 

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The sweet thing about MVSETUP is that I'm not messing with the UCS at all.

This is basically what I do, except I use the Align Space in Express Tools to automate the process. I doubt that's available in Intellicad, so I would revert to Mvsetup. 

I don't know how it works in Intellicad, but in Carlson with autocad the easy way is to go to

View, Twist Screen and Line or polyline and pick the line that you want to be horizontal in the viewport. It will not change anything else.

I usually twist both model and viewport to the same line.

If you're using Carlson, this ^ is the method to use.