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There's a heavy rain falling here in Puyallup today, and it's about 40f. It's not supposed to let up until mid-afternoon and won't get much warmer.

It's snowing pretty good, North of here. My daughter needs to go up to Western Washington University, in Bellingham, this afternoon, to pick up her Daughter. The temperature is in the teens up there.

Do all y'all take the day off if the weather is nasty? How do you define nasty weather?

We didn't work in the rain, in Nebraska. Just because the equipment wasn't water proof. But we worked in the snow.

Folks in western Washington don't like to work in the snow; but we work in the rain, even if it's a cold, hard rain.

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I'm all about being safe; A lot of people in this region don't know how to drive in the snow, so I'd rather not risk wreaking the Suburban, or getting hit, working in the road.

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what is your threshold?

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Dougie


 
Posted : December 20, 2022 11:11 am
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Temp doesn't matter to me as much as the wind; wind makes everything 100x more miserable.?ÿ The older I get the more fairweather I become, so if there's office work to do I'll use that to dodge the wind, cold, and rain as much as possible. ?????ÿ


 
Posted : December 20, 2022 11:42 am
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I'm north of you in Vancouver at the moment, We got 9.5" overnight with more on the way. The site survey I have to do this afternoon should be productive...

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We will never take time off due to rain and its extremely rare to take days off due to snow. That being said I don't agree with that mentality as the quality of our work and the productivity take a nose dive in weather like this.

Next year I'm hoping to take January to March off and make it up in the summer months.


 
Posted : December 20, 2022 11:47 am
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Here in Iowa the forecast is for several inches of snow, significant wind, and some sub-zero F temperatures by the end of the week.

People are talking about canceling meetings. That's probably a good idea because we haven't had much of a winter driving 101 refresher yet. People here do get used to driving in snow, but it takes a reminder to re-adapt everybody.


 
Posted : December 20, 2022 12:04 pm
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I am a FAIR weather surveyor.


 
Posted : December 20, 2022 12:08 pm

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Last weekend brought 18" at my house in Vermont.?ÿ Luckily, I'm working in lower elevations, which currently have less than a foot on the ground.

It just makes it harder to get some detail, and you don't stumble across any monuments you're not actually looking for


 
Posted : December 20, 2022 12:25 pm
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The Fairbanks/North Pole area has crappy driving conditions all winter. ?ÿThey like to use a grader to remove the hard pack leaving a clear ice surface to drive on.?ÿ

nothing warms my heart as much as waving at the fool off the road who passed me a few minutes earlier.

Iƒ??ve worked in inclement weather conditions my entire life. Just part of it.


 
Posted : December 20, 2022 12:27 pm
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Really dislike surveying in the snow.?ÿ Not only is it generally cold and miserable, but you also miss things, take longer to do routine things, it's less safe, and just an all-around waste of time, imo.?ÿ Snow months should be for training, updating templates, maintaining equipment, vacations, etc.


 
Posted : December 20, 2022 12:30 pm
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We got hit with three back to back storms that dumped 3-5ƒ?? of snow. My first rule of thumb is to avoid driving until the weather has stabilized and plows have done their work. Road accidents are my biggest concern. As long as itƒ??s not blowing and temps stay above -20F, Iƒ??ll breakout the 6ƒ?? snowshoes and cruise around like a snowshoe hair. Iƒ??m geared up for it and itƒ??s actually pretty fun. Best part is nobody comes out to ask what Iƒ??m doing!


Just because I'm paranoid, doesn't mean they aren't out to get me.

 
Posted : December 20, 2022 12:32 pm
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My general rule of thumb is that if I am working anywhere near roadways, I can work with two out of the below three:

-temps below ~35F

-enough active rain/snow to limit visibility

-before or after daylight hours

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That's mainly a safety thing though, and it really does depend on where you are. I spent five years working in AK, and always worked through the winter. Gotta be able to work in the dark and snow because otherwise it's not going to get done. Usually boundary (fun times digging mons under lots of snow or chipping out compacted ice on pavement) and rural-type topo (minimal utilities, but still a pain punching the rod down through snow to tag CL of ditch or culvert flowlines).

I don't mind working in anything short of a blizzard as long as there's a warm vehicle to hop into occasionally, and I'm not having to constantly worry about traffic. Aside from that the only complaints I ever had were battery life and just having to learn to punch the physical keypad on the DC for everything.


 
Posted : December 20, 2022 12:34 pm

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Don't worry, I just bought a snow blower today, so I'm sure it will dissipate.?ÿ ?ÿYou're welcome.?ÿ

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They are talking of snow like the blizzard of 79 here in northern Illinois.?ÿ Oh to be 10 again!?ÿ ?ÿthat was a great storm.?ÿ ?ÿ


 
Posted : December 20, 2022 1:45 pm
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Wishing you guys up north the best with the storm coming - be safe out there!


 
Posted : December 20, 2022 3:28 pm
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There is really no point to work in the snow in the PNW. It will only be a day or so. Too many people are neither prepared for nor experienced with driving in the stuff. And the heavy wet snow we get is a bit nastier than the average. Productivity will be low. Just stand down a day, maybe two, and it will be gone.?ÿ

I do work in the rain, but since I do both office and field I exercise my perogative to schedule office things on the really heavy days.?ÿ ?ÿ?ÿ


 
Posted : December 20, 2022 5:51 pm
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My threshold is 62?ø.?ÿ I'm a wuss.?ÿ I live in Southern California.?ÿ You will never see me working out in the rain.?ÿ Snow??ÿ What's that??ÿ But, then I don't have to work anymore.?ÿ I'm so close to being an octagenerian that I should never have to go outside if the temperature drops below 72?ø.?ÿ So I don't.


 
Posted : December 20, 2022 6:22 pm
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Work will cancel if the weather is bad enough. I don't know the definition other than if I deem it unsafe to travel. I don't have to take time off if i brought my computer home. We won't do field work if it is heavy rain or lightning. The temps hardly ever get low enough to stop fieldwork (-10f). I would rather survey at 0f than 100f.?ÿ


 
Posted : December 20, 2022 6:53 pm

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Coffeyville, KS is adjacent to the Oklahoma border.?ÿ A couple of days there this week will suck.

https://weather.com/weather/tenday/l/Coffeyville+KS?canonicalCityId=7ed69be5518c56878fc6c45f2c1594c809cfd2a8734fd51fd2625fa80e9fd17d

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...WIND CHILL WARNING IN EFFECT FROM 10 PM WEDNESDAY TO 1 PM CST
FRIDAY...

...WINTER STORM WATCH IN EFFECT FROM LATE WEDNESDAY NIGHT THROUGH
THURSDAY AFTERNOON...

* WHAT...For the Wind Chill Warning, dangerously cold wind chills
expected. Wind chills as low as 25 below zero. For the Winter
Storm Watch, snow and blowing snow possible. Total snow
accumulations of 2 to 4 inches possible. Winds could gust as
high as 45 mph.

* WHERE...Elk, Wilson, Neosho, Montgomery and Labette Counties.

* WHEN...For the Wind Chill Warning, from 10 PM Wednesday to 1
PM CST Friday. For the Winter Storm Watch, from late Wednesday
night through Thursday afternoon.

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Meanwhile in Wray CO, near the CO/NE/KS tri-point will be experiencing this fun weather

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https://weather.com/weather/tenday/l/Wray+CO?canonicalCityId=02ee843562792b816b89974830592474e1965720c0f328d83bda0fceab6dd29c

...WINTER WEATHER ADVISORY IN EFFECT FROM 11 AM MST /NOON CST/
WEDNESDAY TO 5 AM MST /6 AM CST/ FRIDAY...

...WIND CHILL WARNING IN EFFECT FROM 5 PM MST /6 PM CST/
WEDNESDAY TO 11 AM MST /NOON CST/ FRIDAY...

* WHAT...For the Wind Chill Warning, dangerously cold wind chills
expected. Wind chills as low as 50 below zero. For the Winter
Weather Advisory, snow and blowing snow expected resulting in
low visibilities. Total snow accumulations around 2 inches are
possible. Winds gusting as high as 45 mph.

* WHERE...Portions of east central and northeast Colorado and
northwest and west central Kansas.

* WHEN...For the Wind Chill Warning, from 5 PM MST /6 PM CST/
Wednesday to 11 AM MST /noon CST/ Friday. For the Winter
Weather Advisory, from 11 AM MST /noon CST/ Wednesday to 5 AM
MST /6 AM CST/ Friday.


 
Posted : December 20, 2022 8:41 pm
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Winds chills over -30 is usually when the conversation starts for calling it. The pace and quality of work just doesnƒ??t seem worth it.?ÿ

Depends on what exactly is being done though and in what proximity. Near slick roads, probably not a good idea. Youƒ??d think Minnesota drivers would be good at driving in in the snow by nowƒ?? not even close ?????ÿ


 
Posted : December 20, 2022 9:12 pm
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I donƒ??t mind working in a light rain. Just make sure the equipment cases are left open to dry out later. Usually call off for heavy rain though. I donƒ??t mind cold temps or snow as long as itƒ??s not really windy or a blizzard. Some days I feel bad for my apprentice dragging them out in the cold and will try to plan quick jobs close to the truck if field work has to get done.?ÿ


 
Posted : December 20, 2022 10:00 pm
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@on_point?ÿ

don't feel bad.?ÿ you're referring to them as your apprentice.?ÿ That's the term nearly everyone doesn't use and shows the respect for them you have. they're lucky to have you and vice versa.

that being said, work needs to be done, but losing fingers and toes is not an option to make a profit either.

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carry on.

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Posted : December 20, 2022 11:26 pm
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Here in NE England we rarely get long periods of anything - although we can get 4 seasons in a day!

My basic rules are:

a) Can I get the quality of survey needed for the job

b) will it be safe to walk on the site

c) will it be safe to get there.

If all three can't be met then it's no-go unless that would create a bigger safety risk to others.

In winter, where I am is 30 mile to the coast (hardly ever any real snow for more than a few hours) and 30 mile to elevation 3000ft (lots of snow - one year it was June 1st, before the last patches disappeared) - so I have a degree of choice over which direction I work in.

Seasons greetings to all readers, best wishes from this side of the pond.

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