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Norman_Oklahoma
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Joined: June 15, 2015 7:55 am
Last seen: October 10, 2026 7:32 pm
Topics: 199 / Replies: 8292
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RE: When a fence disagrees with your math, what goes on the plat?

"Title" and "Boundary" are two separate subjects. A surveyor can offer opinions about the boundary as described in a document, and about parol evidenc...

1 day ago
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RE: When a fence disagrees with your math, what goes on the plat?

@pls8xx The circumstances you and HC describe are those where ambiguity in the deed allows the surveyor to treat the fences as parol evidence to re...

1 day ago
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RE: When a fence disagrees with your math, what goes on the plat?

As I said before, ignore the advise given in an unquestionably authoritative textbook on the subject- repeatedly over a period of 70 years by multiple...

1 day ago
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RE: When a fence disagrees with your math, what goes on the plat?

If your advise is "This is how I interpret your deed description. The fences do not exactly correspond to those lines. You may want to consult an atto...

1 day ago
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RE: When a fence disagrees with your math, what goes on the plat?

I do not think that you are that gullible. If the average property owner hires a surveyor, and the surveyor offers an opinion as to unwritten rights, ...

2 days ago
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RE: When a fence disagrees with your math, what goes on the plat?

You make this assertion, and your arguments that follow flow from that. Brown (and Robbilard) state that the surveyors obligation is to form an opin...

2 days ago
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RE: State Plane Subdivision

We are talking about 1:3000 scaling. It does seem like there is more going on here than just state plane being used. Like maybe a zone being used tha...

2 days ago
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RE: State Plane Subdivision

CSFs can be either greater than or less than 1.000.

2 days ago
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RE: OPUS Weirdness with Ortho Hgts

Their definition of acceptable: fulfills contractual obligations, serves project needs, billable. DONE. (Noting that "project" is defined, in part,...

3 days ago
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RE: OPUS Weirdness with Ortho Hgts

Based on my time in public service, what you have to do is be very specific about expectations at contract / work order time and then require that met...

3 days ago
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RE: Why? Too long. Too Short

I disagree. In a proration of platted lots your proration goes to the centerline of the street. That were the fee title goes to. Then you measure off ...

4 days ago
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RE: State Plane Subdivision

That's a lot of systematic error, certainly very bad practice. Is this a regular thing, or an uncharacteristic goof? It amounts to about 0.03' in a 10...

4 days ago
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RE: OPUS Weirdness with Ortho Hgts

Always get the metadata.

4 days ago
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RE: When a fence disagrees with your math, what goes on the plat?

Here is what Walter Robillard had to say on the matter in 2011. Same book, Sixth Edition. Saying the same thing using 3x as many words.   ...

4 days ago
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RE: When a fence disagrees with your math, what goes on the plat?

  Here are some examples from my neck of the woods. Not my work.  

5 days ago
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RE: When a fence disagrees with your math, what goes on the plat?

Here is what Curtis Brown had to say in 1962.      

5 days ago
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RE: Another Static check

The difference between '88 and '29 in my fair city is 3.514 feet, per the NGS datasheets on the two levelled benchmarks within city limits. This, of c...

5 days ago
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RE: Surveyors are............................................

That's a pretty brash statement. Having practiced in both Oregon (as well as Washington and British Columbia) where there is review, and in Oklahoma w...

1 week ago
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RE: Surveyors are............................................

The CSs don't tell the surveyor that they can't say something. If they comment they are, generally, only asking for the surveyor to expand on what the...

1 week ago
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RE: OPUS Weirdness with Ortho Hgts

Elevations returned by OPUS tend to be ±0.2ft. Can be worse. If you occupy for >4hrs it gets a little better. Working with GPS in Alaska, you ar...

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