Problem I don't recall ever encountering before

3 inches down for a water line???ÿ That's crazy. Doesn't that freeze in Kansas?

I thought property owners still owned the top 18", although the cable company in town doesn't agree and puts their lines at grass roots level.

I'm not surprised a utility line displaced a property corner.?ÿ I've even seen utility lines displace benchmarks.

@bill93?ÿ

That's part of the craziness.?ÿ However, I suspect this is a main line running through this little town to get to another one and couple of rural water districts.?ÿ Water should be on the move at all times.?ÿ Still, that is foolishly shallow for any pipeline.

Contractors seem to stick water meter boxes on lot corners from time to time around here so something like that probably wouldn't surprise me.

Iƒ??ve driven a rebar through a water line.?ÿ
sprinkler line, to be exact.?ÿ
I wound up paying somebody 100$ to fix it.?ÿ
it bounces on ?ÿplastic lines. But I was determined.?ÿ

Posted by: @holy-cow

Simple project.?ÿ The four corners of the property were surveyed in 1987 by a very good surveyor.?ÿ Easily found the control monuments.?ÿ Went to the front two calculated locations and found no iron signal whatsoever.?ÿ Went to the back and both bars were within 0.05' of our calculated positions.?ÿ Went back to the front for a second try.?ÿ At a depth of three inches we found a new 8" plastic water line.?ÿ Right on top.

Thought about driving a couple of 1/2" bars right through it.?ÿ Decided we didn't need a shower that badly,

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That sounds about normal for California, about a year ago we were setting monuments and told our apprentice chairman to be careful of the sprinkler line.?ÿ Not 30 seconds later he drove a 2" pipe through it.

(Oregon) ORS 92.044 (7) ......Utility infrastructure may not be placed within one foot of a survey monument location noted on a subdivision or partition plat. ....

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@mark-mayer Somehow I doubt it stops them or that there's a way to enforce penalties when they disregard.

@holy-cow?ÿ

frost line based on latitude and elevation I thought was an engineering standard and at least an AWWA Standard for sure...

meh.

Posted by: @nate-the-surveyor

Iƒ??ve driven a rebar through a water line.?ÿ
sprinkler line, to be exact.?ÿ
I wound up paying somebody 100$ to fix it.?ÿ
it bounces on ?ÿplastic lines. But I was determined.?ÿ

I wish I could have got a copy of the photo because it was something else, but... at one place I worked one of the chiefs pounded a 2 foot rebar dead center through a 10-12" PVC irrigation pipe that was laying on the surface of the ground.?ÿ The bar was poking up a couple inches from the top of the pipe and had a cap on it and everything.?ÿ From what I understand the farmer emailed with the picture asking "What the hell...?" ???œ

I think the chief got a pretty serious ass-chewing but he must have been having a frustrating day because I remember seeing him throw his hands up at one point and yell something like 'Take it out of my paycheck!'.

3" deep for a plastic water line that sounds like an irrigation line for a pivot or set of side rolls. I can't imagine in Kansas that an 8" domestic water transmission line could be that shallow. 6' of cover is a minimum in these parts.?ÿ

Posted by: @stephen-ward

Somehow I doubt it stops them or that there's a way to enforce penalties when they disregard.

It's not like Oregon has utility police on patrol, but if you drive an iron through a utility placed after that law was put in effect you aren't going to have to pay for the repair.?ÿ

@stephen-ward

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@norman-oklahoma

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A water transmission line punctured might have been a dangerous event for the guy with the hammer. Depends on the pressure, but they can look like old faithful.?ÿ

@mightymoe?ÿ

Sure, a phineas gage situation.

@mightymoe 4' here.

@bstrand?ÿ

sounds like a guy I used to work with.

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I'm sure the utility contractor had the corners staked before he started construction. ???œ?ÿ

@andy-nold?ÿ

Of course he did, he used them for line!!!!