NSPS needs some input

Are you only seeking help from NSPS members or are you willing to work with others?

If you are willing to work with others, the language of the request needs to be amended

"Occupational Information Network (O*NET) again seeks help from NSPS members"

and I will bring it to my California Land Surveyor's Association meeting.

What kind of time/effort commitment is involved here? Is this just answering a few questions in an online survey format? Or is it something more. I'm not certain I fully understand what is being requested.

Check the Occupational Information Network (O*NET) web page and you will begin to understand. This was called Dictionary of Occupational Titles and is being revised. Please read the entire page! This is the "job Title" resource for federal, state and local government. Near the bottom of the page is "Who uses O*NET?" read the list and think about how many times you have tried to explain surveying to one of these people. If these descriptions are wrong it may take years to get it corrected.

Then read the following occupation descriptions:
Code ----------- Occupation

17-1022.00 ----- Surveyors

17-3031.01 ----- Surveying Technicians

If you don't agree with the content then what would you change?

I don't see GPS listed in the tools thing...it just jumped out at me.

Most striking to me is the fact only the surveyors, "assume liability for work performed."

I searched for the word "liability" under GP physician, lawyer, civil engineer, urban & regional planners, and the GIS mafia and found no such mention of liability.

19-3051.00 Urban and Regional Planners

The planners evidently use GPS.

Steve

you can see that O*NET needs help

When they

1) don't even address property lines in the land surveyor description, and

2) use the phrase "exact" in Geodetic Surveyor "....•Calculate the exact horizontal and vertical position of points on the earth's surface."

I think that "relative" is more accurate than "exact." Or maybe "accurate" would be better?

Dtp

PS I have sent my name to Curt for consideration

you can see that O*NET needs help

I sent an email shortly after receiving the second notice. Just in case had already started researching the current descriptions. That is why I had the links to post above.

EDIT:

>When they

>1) don't even address property lines in the land surveyor description, . . .

I think they use the word boundaries in place of lines "Make exact measurements and determine property boundaries." However, I would edit that to read, Make accurate measurements and analyze legal documents to determine property boundaries.

"Calculate heights, depths, relative positions, property lines, and other characteristics of terrain."

Maybe "Measure the earth's surface elevation, locate improvements and prepare maps depicting these features" is better?

AutoCAD Land Desktop still exists, but many have changed to Civil 3D

you can see that O*NET needs help

•Direct or conduct surveys to establish legal boundaries for properties, based on legal deeds and titles.
•Prepare or supervise preparation of all data, charts, plots, maps, records, and documents related to surveys.
•Write descriptions of property boundary surveys for use in deeds, leases, or other legal documents.
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I did miss that Dallas, thanks for the heads up!

Dtp