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paden cash, post: 335020, member: 20 wrote: troll

You just might be correct! B-)


 
Posted : September 3, 2015 5:08 pm
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Pacing is a basic skill for field work and was part of my introduction to measurement 101 class in college. We had one guy who came from a mining survey background and he knew his normal pace and his pace going uphill and downhill.


 
Posted : September 3, 2015 5:10 pm
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I probably would have reacted much like the party chief.


 
Posted : September 3, 2015 11:50 pm
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You can't defend "Blowing Up". Maybe "One Man" has BECAME his Father. I guess the Anger Management class would disclose it was a culmination of other of things, the PC is constantly late or no show. As for Pacing, I'm not putting it down in it's place, But in relatively Urban Areas I'd rather break out the keel and tape. In this situation we were looking for a Railroad Spike that had been set 4 years earlier and an asphalt road. A culvert near by to boot. As far as the 100 K in equipment I was painting the broad stroke. It's hard to touch a vehicle these days for less then 35. I do appreciate and will process the opinions though!


 
Posted : September 4, 2015 4:19 am
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When life gives you lemons, make lemonade.

Many, many years ago in a Popeye cartoon the story revolved around Popeye having to go back to school----beginning with First Grade and working his way up after proving he could meet each grade's standards. It might have been during his stint in Third or Fourth Grade he was given an extremely difficult math question. He was asked, "If you have seven kids and three apples, how do you share them equally?" His hardthought answer was, "You makes applesauce."

Life is what we make it. If everything around us is negative, we must remember that the only common denominator to all of those negative things IS US.


 
Posted : September 4, 2015 4:32 am

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Posted : September 4, 2015 7:33 am
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Popeye if he were "real"


 
Posted : September 4, 2015 8:31 am
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Holy Cow, post: 335059, member: 50 wrote: Life is what we make it. If everything around us is negative, we must remember that the only common denominator to all of those negative things IS US.

The one common element in all my dysfunctional relationships is me.


 
Posted : September 4, 2015 8:53 am
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IpsoFacto, post: 335058, member: 9066 wrote: Maybe "One Man" has BECAME his Father.

I detect a backstory here that you haven't yet shared.


 
Posted : September 4, 2015 8:54 am
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imaudigger, post: 335004, member: 7286 wrote: If you can pace it for stake out, you can pace it for recon.
Having the ability to find enough monuments to get started, by simply reading a map and pacing is a very good quality (in my opinion).
Knowing when to move on to plan B is also important.

I have had jobs where I was simply lost and could not get started. Those days are frustrating. Smartphones and GPS have almost eliminated that.

Now if "the rest of the story" was that this same guy was continually un-prepared and was always impeding the work....and this was the last straw..that would be another story.

Had my first boss remind me after 6 months in the field (not going off the deep end, just explaining his point) why I should always have keel and a plumb bob handy. Still forget sometimes even after 26 years if I'm not really thinking about reconing when I first start out. I can still pace out to within 2-3 feet of distance (depends on how long the leg is) after getting a pretty good limp. I think I could have handled 57 feet to get close enough to use the metal detector.


 
Posted : September 4, 2015 9:13 am

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Some of us learn after a while when we blow up that we have the same problem we had before losing it. Only now, the people we have to help us are not really motivated. It's more about how much work gets done than how many people you run off. How do you think you are going to like management?


 
Posted : September 4, 2015 9:54 am
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IpsoFacto, post: 335058, member: 9066 wrote: ....it was a culmination of other of things, the PC is constantly late or no show....

That's why I added the part about not knowing anything about the PC. He may well have deserved being chewed out. Still.....might be wise to do that when nobody else is around.


 
Posted : September 4, 2015 11:10 am
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John, post: 335101, member: 791 wrote: Popeye if he were "real"

He bears some resemblance to one of our regular posters. :-O


 
Posted : September 4, 2015 12:50 pm
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CHarmon, post: 335110, member: 25 wrote: Had my first boss remind me after 6 months in the field (not going off the deep end, just explaining his point) why I should always have keel and a plumb bob handy. Still forget sometimes even after 26 years if I'm not really thinking about reconing when I first start out. I can still pace out to within 2-3 feet of distance (depends on how long the leg is) after getting a pretty good limp. I think I could have handled 57 feet to get close enough to use the metal detector.

Haven't carried keel in years, or a plumb bob, what the heck it's not 1976 anymore.

I don't think I even have keel, I never carry a bob, what would I do with it, besides checking the rod for level, or a rough check for the tribrach.

I can find corners other ways these days, pacing is something that's fast and accurate.


 
Posted : September 4, 2015 12:54 pm
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Bill93, post: 335162, member: 87 wrote: He bears some resemblance to one of our regular posters. :-O

Since my avatar looks like an elephant's hind quarters, I'm thinking Popeye doesn't look like me :'(


 
Posted : September 4, 2015 1:00 pm

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The only thing I go off the clock for is if someone is going to teach me something beyond what I need to know to dispatch my direct responsibilities.

I do not shave my hours when I make a mistake nor do I pad them when I do well, I will round up to an even 8 when given permission.

Everything in it's place, I usually shift directly from pacing to gun, skipping right over the rag tape portion.


 
Posted : September 4, 2015 5:10 pm
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MightyMoe, post: 335163, member: 700 wrote: Haven't carried keel in years, or a plumb bob, what the heck it's not 1976 anymore.

I don't think I even have keel, I never carry a bob, what would I do with it, besides checking the rod for level, or a rough check for the tribrach.

I can find corners other ways these days, pacing is something that's fast and accurate.

After discovering prismatic reflective tape, I put it on the backside of every gammon reel. I can shoot that with 0 offset in prismless mode at near 1,000 ft. My helper does not have to carry a prism pole everywhere now and the plumb bob and prismatic reflective tape on gammon reel is our renewed and improved favorite tool, we never leave the truck without it.

:gammon: + :plumbbob: = :good:


 
Posted : September 4, 2015 6:12 pm
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After 40 years, I catch myself counting paces walking thru the mall!!


 
Posted : September 6, 2015 8:01 pm
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