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Am I the only one who starts my point numbering with, 101, 1001, 3001, etc?

Seems like everyone else I've worked with always starts monuments with 100, topo at 1000, etc.

Maybe my brain is off, but I don't start counting at 0


 
Posted : April 29, 2022 6:29 am
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You aren't the only one.?ÿ When I started at my current position, I was in the "100, 1000, 3000..." club.?ÿ The surveyor that occupied my current billet implemented the 101, 1001, 3001... policy.?ÿ

[Edit]?ÿ we use 1-100 for primary and secondary control, 101-1000 for stake-out points, 1001-??????? for field located amenities (boundary & topo).


 
Posted : April 29, 2022 6:34 am
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I also start a string of point integers at one.?ÿ I've always attributed this to my work in telecommunications years ago working with telephone cable counts of the conductors.?ÿ Cable pairs were counted in binder groups of 25; like pairs 1-25, 26-50 or say 276-300.?ÿ The number zero always ended a count. ?ÿ ?ÿ?ÿ


 
Posted : April 29, 2022 6:55 am
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I don't see that it matters much, as either works in this application.

It's a big deal for computer programmers, as some languages do it each way for array addressing. The first element in an array in Fortran and some other languages is Farray(1) but in C or C++ it is Carray(0). It makes sense in that you are adding an offset to the base address, and the first element is at the base address so you add 0 offset to get it.

We had an argument on one project because of conflicting conventions, and ones side awarded the project leader a trophy as the #0 Programmer of the Year.


 
Posted : April 29, 2022 7:23 am
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You're not the only one, I do that as well, and there are plenty of crews at our firm who do the same.

It always made more sense to me, but ultimately I don't care as long as the ranges are still correct...


 
Posted : April 29, 2022 7:47 am

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I'm with you - I start at 1, not 0. I don't really understand starting at 100 or 101.


 
Posted : April 29, 2022 8:24 am
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Me too. 101 etc


 
Posted : April 29, 2022 8:31 am
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I recall the argument that the new millennium started on Jan 1, 2001, and not 2000. The logic was undeniable. It didn't matter.

For the record, I start at zero.?ÿ


 
Posted : April 29, 2022 8:45 am
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@norman-oklahoma?ÿ

The first year wasn't 0, it was 1. So 1-10 was the first decade; 1-100 was the first century; 1-1000 was the first millennium; 1001-2000 was the second. January 1, 2001 was the first day of the third. We are currently in the


GIF

.


 
Posted : April 29, 2022 9:28 am
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Posted by: @dougie

The first year wasn't 0, it was 1.....?ÿ ?ÿ.....?ÿ ?ÿ.....?ÿ ?ÿ ...

2001 called. They want their argument back.


 
Posted : April 29, 2022 9:37 am

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GIF

 
Posted : April 29, 2022 10:30 am
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?ÿOK if it is 2022AD and that started when Jesus died at 1AD and before Jesus was 1BC what are all of the years numbered when he was alive?


 
Posted : April 29, 2022 10:34 am
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Not just you.


 
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Posted by: @norman-oklahoma

I recall the argument that the new millennium started on Jan 1, 2001, and not 2000. The logic was undeniable. It didn't matter.

For the record, I start at zero.?ÿ

DONƒ??T TAKE HIM YET LORD! WE ARENƒ??T DONE WITH HIM YET!


 
Posted : April 29, 2022 10:38 am
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@lurker Jesus was born in 1ƒ??December 25, 1AD. Was the day before December 24, 1BC? Iƒ??m not sure.


 
Posted : April 29, 2022 10:41 am

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Posted by: @lurker

?ÿOK if it is 2022AD and that started when Jesus died at 1AD and before Jesus was 1BC what are all of the years numbered when he was alive?

Trick question, AD is Anno Domini, as soon as Jesus came along it switched to AD.

?ÿ

Or for atheist heathens like me, the less inflammatory, neutral terms B.C.E. and C.E. are employed.

Fun fact, those terms have been around for a long time, and C.E. was also referred to as the Vulgar Era, back when vulgar literally mean common or ordinary.


 
Posted : April 29, 2022 10:47 am
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@rover83?ÿ

Thanks.?ÿ I didn't mean to spark a theological discussion.?ÿ Just woke up with some random meanderings in my head


 
Posted : April 29, 2022 10:51 am
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Somebody set the date by the best they knew, but later scholars reached different conclusions.

The date of birth of Jesus is not stated in the gospels or in any historical reference, but most biblical scholars assume a year of birth between 6 and 4 BC. The historical evidence is too incomplete to allow a definitive dating, but the year is estimated through three different approaches

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Date_of_birth_of_Jesus

?ÿ


 
Posted : April 29, 2022 11:08 am
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@norman-oklahoma?ÿ

I mean... so 1st point on a project (pt #, N, E, Elev, desc) is:
0, 5000.00, 5000.00, 100.00, set hub.

I don't believe it.

"The first recorded zero appeared in Mesopotamia around 3 B.C. The Mayans invented it independently circa 4 A.D"

With an error of plus/minus 5 years, zero was invented in year zero. So that's cool.

?ÿ


 
Posted : April 29, 2022 11:45 am
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I start with 1, 100, 200, 1000, etc. It occurred to me a few years ago that this was wrong. Maybe some fine day I'll change.?ÿ


 
Posted : April 29, 2022 11:49 am

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