Grrrrrrrrrr!!!!!!

Ruel del Castillo, post: 444583, member: 137 wrote: I just got a Record of Survey map check letter back:

"Change all the SW bearings to NE and all the SE bearings to NW".

This is the kind of garbage that give map checkers a bad name!

It's been hours and I'm still shocked (oh, and extremely pi$$ed!)

OF COURSE, I'M NOT GOING TOO!

Tell them that's the way it comes out of the computer and that you can't change them. :smarty:

Ruel del Castillo, post: 444583, member: 137 wrote: "Change all the SW bearings to NE and all the SE bearings to NW".

It's not too much to ask for an explanation why. Possibly there is a reason. Probably the perp will blubber about it just being a suggestion.

What's your obligation to comply?

Fortunately, In AK, a local entity can say all they want about what to do/not do with an ROS but the recorder is obligated to record ANY ROS presented (as long as it doesn't subdivide land). For better or worse it's all between the surveyor and the recorder's office.

I always used to use the N instead of the S because when I printed the S it looked like a 5.
Computer drafting solved that.

A stickler for always going clockwise (or counter-clockwise)? Ask him if he's going to stamp your work. What is he hanging his hat on to say that you are going in the wrong direction? Is it some kind of statute in your state? I think the onus is on him to let you know what standard or rule you are breaking.

The only case where this might make sense is if all the calls read a certain direction in the description but every line on the drawing reads the opposite. That's simply a case of being sloppy and not having any respect for the users of the information who assume something is wrong because they aren't identical.

I had some come back the other day and the comments were please put all the notes and certifications on the left hand side of the map and in a particular order in unison like the towns example plat. Beats everything I've ever seen.

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I did plat review for a couple of local counties a few years ago. I DID NOT check the values shown against any record documents, that is why you hire a professional surveyor. I checked to assure the plat met state and local requirements (size, letter size, applicable notes, date seal, etc.). I can't imagine telling another professional which direction to place calls.
Andy

My drawing read clockwise just as my property description reads.
I have had many to ask me to do that so my plat will read as their property description will, and it being one that I did not write.

I imagine that if a plan reviewer suggested to Tommy that he change all his souths to north that he would slap the reviewer across the face with his riding gloves and demand satisfaction.

Ruel del Castillo, post: 444583, member: 137 wrote: I just got a Record of Survey map check letter back:

"Change all the SW bearings to NE and all the SE bearings to NW".

This is the kind of garbage that give map checkers a bad name!

It's been hours and I'm still shocked (oh, and extremely pi$$ed!)

I run them clockwise in order of importance. Perimeter, road, lot 1, lot 2...

Holy Cow, post: 444599, member: 50 wrote: The only case where this might make sense is if all the calls read a certain direction in the description but every line on the drawing reads the opposite. That's simply a case of being sloppy and not having any respect for the users of the information who assume something is wrong because they aren't identical.

I wouldn't call that sloppy. The bearings on the plat will almost never match the record bearings if either are reported to the nearest second, so they won't be the same anyway. That's why we show the record information on the plat too.

spledeus, post: 444616, member: 3579 wrote: I run them clockwise in order of importance. Perimeter, road, lot 1, lot 2...

That only works if none of your parcels are adjoining others. As soon as you have a common line - the clockwise concept breaks down and there is no telling where the property is 😮

JKinAK, post: 444630, member: 7219 wrote: That only works if none of your parcels are adjoining others. As soon as you have a common line - the clockwise concept breaks down and there is no telling where the property is 😮

Total perimeter
Roads
Lot 1
Lot 2

Who cares if lot 2 has bearings not following the protocol. Hierarchy on how to reconstruct the subdivision to guide the next surveyor.

I also run a map check manually. If I get hung up, I will add a tangent or radial bearing to male sure the next surveyor can input it with ease.

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Ask that reviewer on what page of his 'Manual of Style' that requirement is to be found.
As long as the bearings are oriented in a consistent direction, who cares?

I don't need government stooges checking my surveys.

[USER=2486]@aliquot[/USER]

I was referring to new descriptions prepared by the signing surveyor. A simple four-sided tract, for example, shouldn't confuse anyone. But, writing the description with a bearing going south and east suggests your labeling on the plat should read identically (south and east) to what you put in the description, not backwards (north and west). To label them willy nilly is sloppy.

Call a meeting. Take the plan with you and place it on the table, now spin it upside down. There ya go !!!