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I've talked about this description several times over the years. It's dated 1753. Was created in 1730

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Posted : August 11, 2022 1:26 pm
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What a great piece of history we get to see when looking through the old conveyances.?ÿ Thanks for posting.


 
Posted : August 11, 2022 1:47 pm
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Oh geezus, what a nightmare to locate that one.?ÿ ?????ÿ I'm guessing a whole lot of occupation went into determining that boundary...


 
Posted : August 11, 2022 1:57 pm
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That sounds like it is near the spot where George Washington threw a dollar across the Potomac River.?ÿ Seems like a long way to throw a dollar but money went a lot farther back then.


 
Posted : August 11, 2022 2:57 pm
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@tom-bushelman I really hated to hit the like button, but it was such a cheesy joke I had to.


 
Posted : August 11, 2022 3:06 pm

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Posted by: @john-giles

I've talked about this description several times over the years. It's dated 1753. Was created in 1730

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That floored me. ƒ??200 shootsƒ? How could you possibly define that on the ground?

Kinda sad the way Native Americans got screwed at every opportunity. ?????ÿ


 
Posted : August 11, 2022 4:03 pm
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"Fishing, Sowling, Hawking, Hunting..."

What is Sowling? I looked it up and found a few definitions, all very old:

1. Food eaten with bread.

2. Dragging or pulling an animal by the ears.

3. A unit of land of 160 acres.?ÿ


 
Posted : August 11, 2022 6:16 pm
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@rod?ÿ

I'd bet that was transcribed from handwritten with fowling and the person reading it confused the f with the long script S that was common at the time.


 
Posted : August 11, 2022 8:25 pm
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@bill93?ÿ

Excellent thinking, Bill.


 
Posted : August 11, 2022 11:08 pm
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@flga-2-2?ÿ

"Got Screwed"??ÿ ?ÿ... still happening to this day, my friend.?ÿ ?ÿEver visit a reservation??ÿ


 
Posted : August 12, 2022 7:14 am

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@rod?ÿ

It could have also been sowing ... as in planting.


 
Posted : August 12, 2022 7:17 am
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@firestix

I have and they usually have a casino and many of them seem to be driving around brand new vehicles.

I think things aren't quite the same as they used to be when it comes to reservations...


 
Posted : August 12, 2022 8:06 am
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@john-giles

Any idea of the acreage for which Israel Friend was being taxed? Using an average distance for a long bow shot of 300 yards (200'-400' based on Google), would make this deed approximately 371,900 acres.


 
Posted : August 15, 2022 2:16 pm
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@kevin-hines no idea of the acreage. I did like how they would defend, for two ears of Indian corn to some of them per year, if they demanded payment for the defense.?ÿ


 
Posted : August 15, 2022 3:57 pm
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@bstrand?ÿ

I guess it gets under my skin, a little when, people paint the picture of casinos on native lands .... with natives rolling in money.?ÿ It may be the case for the majority of nations.?ÿ However, when I go home, I mainly see poverty, crime, and vice.?ÿ Who knows, maybe we could benefit from a casino or two??ÿ?ÿ


 
Posted : August 16, 2022 11:36 am

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Posted by: @firestix

@bstrand?ÿ

Who knows, maybe we could benefit from a casino or two??ÿ?ÿ

I don't know, I assume casinos come with their own set of challenges.?ÿ But at the end of the day it's a business and to have a leadership group (apparently) not ever look into such a proven business model seems like a real disservice to their community to me...


 
Posted : August 16, 2022 7:51 pm
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@kevin-hines The Potomac area would have been woodland tribes and googling implies shorter bows, under 60", with around 50 yard range.


 
Posted : August 17, 2022 5:16 pm
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@kevin-hines 200' to 400' would be 67.xx to 133.xx yds and not 300.


 
Posted : August 20, 2022 9:18 pm
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Posted by: @jmbsurvey2023

@kevin-hines 200' to 400' would be 67.xx to 133.xx yds and not 300.

i mistakenly put the foot tick. the information I viewed was 200 - 400 yards so I used the mean distance of 300 yards.?ÿ Long bows of the Native Americans in the 1700s would take all of the strength of a grown man just to pull the bow string back to shooting position.?ÿ I can visualize a shot of 200 to 300 yards without questioning the capabilities of the bow or the shooter.?ÿ Anything further, I begin to get skeptical.

Thanks for catching my mistake.


 
Posted : August 22, 2022 10:52 am