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Everything is glitchy this week.

Got a new Freefly Astro drone. Took 2 days to find out where the error in their online instructions is for connecting it to the internet. Android based (Android sucks, there I said it, glitchy horrible operating system) flight controller software shows no map, they say update Android, keeps failing, canƒ??t update it.

Trimble used to be the gold standard, now itƒ??s gotten glitchy, I expect this from Leica but not Trimble. Trimble Installation Manager updates access, now it wants a login, not supposed to do that. They are trying to figure it out. The thing said I have a license before it updated. IMU is disabled on brand new R12i, no idea why. Updated firmware but canƒ??t see if that fixed it, no controller.

even the stupid car was honking the horn randomly today while wife was at ATM. She says why are you honking at me? Iƒ??m not no idea why the car is randomly honking and locking the back door. Unlock car, open a door, the one is locked.


 
Posted : August 12, 2022 5:28 pm
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Monday was a Monday all day long.?ÿ If anything could go badly, it did.?ÿ Nonstop.?ÿ The kind of day that makes you want to go back to bed and sleep until Tuesday morning.


 
Posted : August 12, 2022 5:44 pm
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To end the week I give you the most bizarre little stretch of right of way line I've ever seen .....?ÿ


 
Posted : August 12, 2022 5:47 pm
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@holy-cow itƒ??s been Monday all week.

Hey but the numerous marketing videos say how easy and great the system isƒ??fly right out of the box!


 
Posted : August 12, 2022 6:27 pm
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Posted by: @dave-karoly

IMU is disabled on brand new R12i, no idea why.

I had that happen on one I was using.?ÿ When I googled it the solution was basically to recalibrate it.?ÿ I tried that and I think it worked for a while and then stopped again and I never did figure out how to get it going again.

Also, it'll auto-disable on certain types of shots (control, calibration, etc) but I think you have to set it up to do this in the survey style, so if that's the case then you hopefully already know about it.


 
Posted : August 12, 2022 6:30 pm

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Posted by: @dave-karoly

Iƒ??m not no idea why the car is randomly honking and locking the back door. Unlock car, open a door, the one is locked.

You were probably sitting on the key fob. ?????ÿ


 
Posted : August 12, 2022 6:38 pm
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@bstrand canƒ??t do one of the calibrations because ƒ??IMU not enabled.ƒ?


 
Posted : August 12, 2022 7:31 pm
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If stuff doesn't go wrong .. you're doing something wrong.?ÿ ?????ÿ?ÿ

?ÿ


 
Posted : August 12, 2022 7:33 pm
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Posted by: @bstrand

it'll auto-disable on certain types of shots (control, calibration, etc)

IMUs don't work so well when they're not moving. No inertia, no readings.


 
Posted : August 12, 2022 9:55 pm
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@dave-karoly

I think there are 2 or 3 different calibration options.?ÿ Are you trying to do the digital bubble calibration instead??ÿ If I remember right, the IMU one has you set the receiver on a table and then rotate it into 5 or 6 different positions while it does a reading.


 
Posted : August 12, 2022 10:58 pm

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Posted by: @bstrand

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IMUs don't work so well when they're not moving. No inertia, no readings.

I had 4 demoƒ??s on 4 different IMU GNSS instruments, on the 4th demo I was told to keep on moving during the measurement on control points, slowly making circles during 15ƒ?, thatƒ??s the common time needed for a shot here with our VRS-system, repeated with at least another shot with a different constellation.

Results were within tolerance and you could not see any difference with the measurements taken without IMU.

So keep on moving these IMUƒ??s while measuring!

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@Dave: Up to a better week!


 
Posted : August 13, 2022 1:46 am
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@christ-lambrecht?ÿ

It would be awesome to be able to ditch the bipod since my summer student can barely carry the rod and bipod with the stupid tsc7 on it. Especially with the GPS rover on there.?ÿ


 
Posted : August 13, 2022 7:00 am
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@flga-2-2 wife said the car was randomly beeping last night. The key is in a drawer just sitting there. But the key could reach the car from the drawer so maybe its sending signals.


 
Posted : August 13, 2022 8:30 am
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@bstrand yes we were able to do them on one receiver including the tabletop one but the other one says IMU disabled. We updated the firmware but canƒ??t check again because the salesman bricked my controllers trying to update them.


 
Posted : August 13, 2022 8:36 am
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@dave-karoly?ÿ

Sounds like something that would happen with Trimble for sure. I still keep the old Leica robot and old Panasonic touchpad with fieldgenius on it in the truck in case of a major Trimble failure.?ÿ

It's mostly been software problems but I had the radio on my tsc7 fail and would not connect do I did not finish that job with the s5. I fixed it that evening at home by removing the radio and module and reinstalling it on the other slot. It was only a hunch that the radio was the issue that helped me fix that problem.?ÿ


 
Posted : August 13, 2022 8:59 am

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Posted : August 13, 2022 9:44 am
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@350rocketmike our other crew had TSC7 radio problems too. My crew only used it with receivers, it had the radio but we never used it.

Have had no radio problems with the TSC5s but they are glitchy, restart involuntarily 5 or 6 times a day. Now they are bricked until Trimble can be bothered to fix the Access install.

The TSC3 restarted maybe once in 7 years.

Everything Android I have is just glitchy and unstable.


 
Posted : August 13, 2022 9:54 am
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@dave-karoly?ÿ

I've used android phones for 10 years. I sure wish Trimble software was as stable and reliable as them. Your mileage may vary, but you have to have tried a ton of different phones to claim "all android is bad" since there are so many different flavors and they aren't all the same.?ÿ

I had the tsc5 for a couple months. No issues with the android operating system. It never crashed and the battery life was decent. It was just Trimble Access that was full of issues. You can't blame android for the software that Trimble created to run on it.?ÿ


 
Posted : August 13, 2022 12:16 pm
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@350rocketmike I never had trouble with Access until they put it on an Android device. ?ÿIt was fine on the TSC7 except Windows 10 is a terrible mobile OS which is a power hog. I have a Samsung android phone, I hate it but at least it is reasonably stable. My personal phone is an iPhone.

The new drone has an android based controller. It wonƒ??t charge on, it has to be off. It took 5 tries for it to successfully update the android system.

A dji drone at 10% of the cost has a better controller that never gets below 90% battery. If the iPad screen dies you can still control the drone.

Android is an okay phone OS but everything not a phone that uses it as a mobile OS has just been glitchy and troublesome for me. Maybe Iƒ??m wrong and itƒ??s not Androidƒ??s fault but Android is the common theme here. I used a Windows Mobile TSC3 for 7 years without all this glitchy drama.


 
Posted : August 13, 2022 12:33 pm
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@dave-karoly?ÿ

I honestly hoped I would have better luck with the tsc7, which is why the tsc5 got sent back in exchange for it...I hate the size, battery life and lack of performance compared to the Panasonic fz-m1 tablet also running windows 10 which runs perfect. I tried a trial of access on it which worked really well.?ÿ

The only issue that went away with the switch from the tsc5 to tsc7 was the crazy lag in the point manager, because they put an old out of date processor in the tsc5 to save $ because android can run on much lower processor speeds. Apparently an update helped with that lag but it is still present to some degree. I would still take the tsc5 over the tsc7 for the better size and ergonomics now that I have tried both.?ÿ

Keep in mind that Trimble has an ancient version of Android on the tsc5 (android 10 is what came on mine - I heard they have since been updated to android 11). Android 12 is the current version with android 13 in the works (beta versions out). My current phone is an LG V60 from 2.5 years ago. It was updated from android 11 to 12 this year and just got a security patch update to July 2022 last week. This is from a company that isn't even selling phones anymore. Very few bugs or issues on this phone. I don't believe android is the core issue causing problems with some of these devices. Some companies get it right others don't, is the way I see it. I could be wrong but I feel like I'm extra fussy with the software we use for work because I am comparing it to what I use on my phone every day.?ÿ

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Posted : August 13, 2022 12:44 pm

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