WINDOWS 8

I would have to have a little more information to buy into that premise. I've had W8 for about 6 months now. Lost power several times and have never had an issue. I have written a few programs that got the machine stuck and had to do a hard-power-off-reboot without issue as well. (of course I had to fix my program so as not to cause further problems - duh)

You can corrupt a hard drive in any OS by yanking the power during a write...

They may as well have said, [sarcasm]"Pssst! Just a warning to all you compulsive email forwarders, if you hand toss your Win8 HDD and shoot it with 12ga copper plated buffered 3 1/2" magnum 00 buck, you may have problems rebooting with that drive. Your true friends at Dell are working on this flaw in Windows 8, but in the meantime, be afraid of anything having to do with a computer." [/sarcasm]

It should only corrupt the boot sector only if it is writing to the boot sector at the exact time of power loss. OK, the post above beat me!

> .... Dell does not provide a boot or recover CD anymore.
Not many manufacturers, if any at all, have shipped recover CDs with new computers for quite some time. This was true of an XP machine I bought in 2003, for example. There is a built in function for creating a PC Recovery Disk (actually a set of 3 in that particular case), which should be among the first things you do after unpacking it and plugging it in.

Not to mention.........

Windows 8 really sucks! It may be OK for a tablet, but on a notebook, like I bought my wife last Christmas, or a desktop it is really terrible to work with. Maybe I'm to set in my XP and Win7 ways though :-S

At any rate if you are thinking about a new notebook, laptop, desktop with windows 8 I strongly recommend a test drive before you buy!

Jeff

Sorry for that.

ZFS and Pillar and I'm sure some other highend File Systems use an "Intent log" which can be run on a SSD with battery backup. Imagine you're Bank of America writing millions of $$ transactions/second to your massive storage farms, and ZAP!, you get a power spike. Ouch. :-$

That is my worry. We need a new machine, but these "All in Ones" only seem to come in Windows 8.

Was thinking of trying to order one without the operating system installed. Then get Win 7 and do a 'clean' install without all of the bloatware.
:-S

For years, Dell has put an OS recovery partition on the primary HDD of its computers. I've heard of others using ROMs for the same thing. Of course, that doesn't really help with your critical business data, but Windows is usually recoverable.

There's really no replacement for data redundancy.

My biggest issue with the all in ones is not so much that it is Win 8 it is the puny version that you get. I am spoiled and want the Ultimate 64 version, so, I lock myself out most of the time. However, if it is for the bookkeeper ...

I just bought 2 Win7s refurbed, on e-bay for 249 each with genuine MS licenses. (Authorized MS refurbisher) they were dells, with 19" monitor, new keyboard,speakers,mouse.

> Windows 8 really sucks! It may be OK for a tablet, but on a notebook, like I bought my wife last Christmas, or a desktop it is really terrible to work with. Maybe I'm to set in my XP and Win7 ways though :-S
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> At any rate if you are thinking about a new notebook, laptop, desktop with windows 8 I strongly recommend a test drive before you buy!
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I would tend to agree with that in general. I jumped from XP Pro to Win8 pretty much without choice so I had to stick it out. I have gotten used to it but it was not easy and I have discovered things mostly by accident.

"Test drive before you buy" is and excellent bit of advice. However, let someone who is already familiar with the environment be your co-pilot and coach. It would have made a world of difference in my case.

I will say that MagicJack and Win8 do not like each other at all. I cannot speak to Win7 but XP had no problem. Not a great big deal. I just restart MJ when I need it.

You got me with that price! I'm a bit of a Scrooge and love to hear of a bargain.B-)

But did it come with bloatware? The last HP I bought had so much on I fought the system for 6 years trying to keep everything working right. Next time it's going to be a bare-bones install.

I am going in the direction of Windows 7 Ultimate 64bit operation system.

It does have a end support of 6 yrs from now, like L1 GPS

My thinking is that by then if we are unable to do everything we should be able to do with our phone, someone is lying and holding us back.

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I bought a new ASUS w Win8 O/S and it has been a pain. Many of my old programs that Win7 loaded and ran will not do so under Win8, even though you can get out of the touch screen interface screen to a Win7 looking clone... it is not the same. If you do go Win8, be sure to get the pro version... that will allow you to trade down to Win7 Pro later if you want to. I love my new ASUS but the O/S is a stinker.

"that will allow you to trade down to Win7 Pro later"

From the above discussion, perhaps you meant "......trade UP to Win7 Pro....."?

😉

Anyone know what's on the horizon? A few months back Microsoft indicated they will no longer support XP, even though it is estimated that over 30 percent of the computers in use today still run XP.

If ",,,you're Bank of America writing millions of $$ transactions/second to your massive storage farms..." you are NOT using Windows software...

Indeed:-) Good Point

> You got me with that price! I'm a bit of a Scrooge and love to hear of a bargain.B-)
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> But did it come with bloatware?

Only additional software was avast, openoffice, and one other I can't remember.
I purchased for our fire department. It is installed there and working fine.

J