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sreeserinpa
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We are contemplating a jump from Civil3D 2018 to either 2020 or 2022.?ÿ Differing opinions abound so I thought why not ask?ÿ this group and really muddy up the waters (just kidding, sort of).

Our civil engineering folks want to go to 2022 as it offers some improvements in their workflow, members of the survey team would prefer to not go to the latest version as they do not feel it has been out long enough to work out the bugs.

Thoughts from this group??ÿ And thank you in advance for your comments!?ÿ

 
Posted : May 18, 2022 6:36 am
Mark Mayer
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2023 is now in release. 2022 has been out for a full year. Itƒ??s as ready as it will ever be.

 
Posted : May 18, 2022 6:58 am
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the survey people could continue to do their data imports & basemapping in the older version and create their own base files with all the relevant info being shown (topo & features located). let the engineering folks x-ref or data shortcut those drawings into their files being created with the newer software. Just don't let a new version of C3D (engineering folks) save the drawing or it'll mean they have to keep using the newest version to update that base mapped file

 
Posted : May 18, 2022 7:28 am
john-putnam
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@ncsudirtman?ÿ

C3D versions 2020, 2021 & 2022 are all compatible.?ÿ I'm currently running 2020 on my workstation and 2021 on my laptop without any issues.?ÿ Here is a link version compatibility.

AutoCAD 2022 Developer and ObjectARX Help | About Drawing (DWG) File Changes | Autodesk?ÿ?ÿ

 
Posted : May 18, 2022 7:41 am
jitterboogie
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2022 has some nice new features that in older versions were not as smooth, or didn't exist as they do now like the trim command, for example: The auto drag trim feature is fancy fun!

They are all based of the 2018 structure, so biggest heavy lift will be updating your templates and sheet sets to the newest latest and greatest.?ÿ CAD manager and team might be averse to the change, but it is inevitable...

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Good luck?ÿ

 
Posted : May 18, 2022 8:17 am

WA-ID Surveyor
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As Putman said, they are all compatible so there are no 'saving issues'.?ÿ With that said, your company should always upgrade together as it makes everything flow smoother.?ÿ We upgraded from 18 to 22 at the end of the year and have had no issues.?ÿ We have about 35 staff consisting of engineers, surveyors and everything in between.

 
Posted : May 18, 2022 8:19 am
blitzkriegbob
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My main thought is that if you wait for any software or hardware to work out all their bugs, then you will never buy anything.?ÿ

 
Posted : May 18, 2022 8:48 am
squirl
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As AutoCAD software history suggests, stick with the odd number releases...my $0.02

I'm currently running 2021 without any issues.

T. Nelson - SAM

 
Posted : May 18, 2022 9:11 am
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Posted by: @jitterboogie

it is inevitable...

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GIF
 
Posted : May 18, 2022 9:50 am
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Posted by: @squirl

As AutoCAD software history suggests, stick with the odd number releases...my $0.02

As I recall C3d 2013 was not very stable. Since then I really don't recall any serious bugs, and I think that I have used most of them. I'd be loading 2023.

 
Posted : May 18, 2022 10:12 am

bobwesterman
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@jitterboogie?ÿ

Don't forget about the update to the Survey databases from before 2019.

 
Posted : May 18, 2022 10:19 am
jitterboogie
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@bobwesterman?ÿ

Yep.?ÿ That was a huge kluge. The new SQLITE is a much more robust addition, largely due to the GIS involvement and investment they took on with ESRI.

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Posted : May 18, 2022 10:21 am
RobertUSA
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I have found each newer version of C3D to be a little but faster than the previous version. No need to stay 2 years in the past.

 
Posted : May 18, 2022 6:56 pm
blitzkriegbob
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Posted by: @norman-oklahoma
Posted by: @squirl

As AutoCAD software history suggests, stick with the odd number releases...my $0.02

As I recall C3d 2013 was not very stable. Since then I really don't recall any serious bugs, and I think that I have used most of them. I'd be loading 2023.

Not to mention that the version generally regarded as the worst of all time was Release 13.

 
Posted : May 19, 2022 4:07 am
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@blitzkriegbob?ÿ

That's the best idea, but unfortunately it won't last very long

 
Posted : May 19, 2022 9:41 am

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Posted by: @blitzkriegbob

Not to mention that the version generally regarded as the worst of all time was Release 13.

I first learned CAD on R13 and when R14 came out I was completely blown away at the difference, if they didn't make that change I may have never stuck with drafting, which brought me into the wonderful world of surveying.

 
Posted : May 19, 2022 10:29 am
RobertUSA
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The .dwg file format of 2022 C3D is still 2018, but it seems survey database, surfaces usually arenƒ??t backwards compatible to previous C3D versions.?ÿ

 
Posted : May 27, 2022 6:36 pm
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Posted by: @robertusa

The .dwg file format of 2022 C3D is still 2018, but it seems survey database, surfaces usually arenƒ??t backwards compatible to previous C3D versions.?ÿ

We have noticed that Surface XML's created in C3D2018 do not transition well to newer versions.?ÿ They get slightly garbled (ie. it is hard to notice the differences, but they are there).?ÿ We stopped sending out XML's to the civil department after we noticed this.

 
Posted : May 30, 2022 8:25 am