Does Javad equipment have anymore ties with Russia? From what can find Javad is made in California with R&D done in Russia at one time. But this may be different now.
- I worked today on a site that was about 10 above and windy. I just knew that I couldn't use glonass but it was there. Plan B Would have been so slow and painfully cold. I wonder when vlad is going to flip off the satellites and hack into our pipelines at the same time? Cringe
If surveyors needed to go back to astro observations, I'll bet the first problem they would find is the supply chain wouldn't be able to keep up with the sudden demand for angled eyepieces.
Serious question...how many surveyors today could function without GNSS? I know of some companies that ONLY do RTK, they don't even have conventional equipment. I realize that would be the least of our worries, but just wondering....
Sure would hurt those unlicensed industries from talking a good game about what they can do!
@olemanriver I was at what I believe was Dave Lehman's last astro class at Corbin. Great week!
@moe-shetty small world. The one i helped in he did several for them was for NASA. Employees. He did some more i was less involved with. I lived on the corbin training ground for a while when me and the wife first got hitched . ?ÿShe is still working there. I am just a year now getting back into Land Surveying. I was working for the gps constellation at an agency. Then did some work for DoD before COVID canceled my full-time contract. Now studying for The FS exam and PS exam. While working part time surveying and full time farming. Been doing field crew work and then adapting them to least squares and such. Man has technology really taken off since I left private sector side. But the math and basic principles are still there. Just have to dust out the cobwebs lol.?ÿ
95% of my work is lump sum. I come up with my proposal, based on using conventional equipment, then do it in 1/4th the time, using GNSS RTK.
No problem for me, just wish I still had my T2.?ÿ
I've dreamed about it at times, working alone has it's advantages and disadvantages.
But not having GPS; walk in the park.?ÿ
I still have my T2, and assorted Tapes, EDMI(s), Total Station, etc. But I'm pretty much retired now (fingers crossed). However, if the Guinness keeps going up in price, I may have to rethink that! ???? ?ÿ
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Mmmm Guinness. ?ÿDid I hear they are making Guinness zero for guys like me, et.al.?
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@brad-ott Where is the fun in that? I only have 3 pints (my limit spread over 3 plus hours) and it's more of a social thing. IF (big if) it really tastes the same as the real thing, I might go for an additional 1 or 2, but I doubt it (getting old sucks, BEING OLD really sucks) ???® ?ÿ
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PS I have found that I spend more money on the Jukebox than I do on beer!?ÿ
...My old buddies back in OK would manage after a period of chaos. They owned total stations. Rarely used total stations. Nevertheless there would be some outfits in OK which would be dead in the water.?ÿ
Just for fun the other day we were successful with a reflectorless TS on two out of three small easement jobs.?ÿ These usually consist of tying a proposed line (staked by others) to found corners and rectifying it all with a deed of record.?ÿ Most work orders have less than 25 or 30 points.?ÿ?ÿ
Two glitches:?ÿ One job required a tie to a center of section that was obscured (and distant) by undergrowth.?ÿ We had to break out the GPS for that one.?ÿ The other glitch was f*cking with the DC to get it swapped back to TS because it had so long nobody remembered how.?ÿ That took about a half hour.
There's no doubt I would be able to function without GNSS.?ÿ However getting in from the field at 1 PM would probably grind to a halt...using optical line-of-sight equipment takes about twice as long.?ÿ I'd probably have to bump up my rates.?ÿ ?ÿ
Back to OPs concerns,?ÿ I highly doubt any attempt to destroy GNSS space assets will occur.?ÿ It'd be hard to knock out dozens of satellites quickly given the available limited orbital launch vehicles equipped with conventional munitions to do so by any superpower.?ÿ And doing so would create an international uproar with severe consequences for the perpetrator.
OTOH theater target jamming, DOS, pseudolites and spoofing are probably being utilized in Ukraine as we speak.?ÿ If you can harm your enemy's GNSS capabilities without significantly degrading your own access;?ÿ that's a huge gain in modern precision warfare.?ÿ?ÿ
So fear not, surveyors; your GPS gizmos will work fine unless you're working in or near the Ukraine ???? .
My free thoughts.
Us:
The people who build countries, actually doing the work, sweating, bleeding etc. Are also the same people getting bombed. This applies to both sides. There are good surveyors, on both sides.
Them:
The ones fomenting fuss, sit in ivory towers, and stirring the pot, to make the standing armies attack.?ÿ
Us:
If we would NOT LISTEN TO PROPAGANDA, we'd all be better off. We work too much. Don't think enough, and thereby make poor decisions. (Me especially here)
Keep in mind, there are a group of "us", and "them" on both sides.
Truth is the first casualty of war.
Just try to "stay out of the way" of both propaganda machines.
Now, having said all that, it's probably a fuss about money. The basis of that statement is simply look up all the natural resources in Ukrainia. It's also what makes realtors and surveyors fuss. I'd guess that the bear "needs" Ukraine's resources. The basis of this statement is I had an older brother. Big brothers don't beg from little brothers. If scamming does not work, they "take what they need". Ie, bullying. I could be wrong. But I see this all over, in other circumstances.
What do I know? I'm just a hillbilly with a God in Heaven.
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@nate-the-surveyor wow you are to the left of me.
Maybe, David. But I'm afraid we are doing a repeat of 'Nam. Too little, too Late.
I don't blame the Ukrainians for fleeing.
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Well, Loran might be great enough for tactical weapons, but you really need navigation satellites for the best strategic nuclear "deterrent".?ÿ This is why in addition to U.S. and Russia, the European Union, China, Japan, and India have all gone to the extreme expense.?ÿ All fundamentally military systems with secondary benefits.
2014 sanctions seriously hurt Russian satellite program.?ÿ I've been wondering when rather than if they would strike back.?ÿ They've been working on producing their own electronic components but need resources that exist in Ukraine.?ÿ
This is a nuclear capability confrontation, but they won't tell you that on the news.?ÿ Putin has made the calculation that time has run out and needs to do something now, and appears China wants Russia to remain in the strong nuclear mix to avoid one on one contest with U.S. in that regard.
Absent some concession from Ukraine for needed materials/components it wouldn't surprise me if Putin does take out GPS satellites to even the field.?ÿ Either of these would actually be better than actual nuclear launches.
But like Nate, I'm just a hick in the woods, what do I know.?ÿ Well, I have a robot and a compass and know how to use them in the winter; but not sure about a nuclear winter.