Do we need GPS to Survey?

Somewhat related -- But I have so many ideas on this....

Iƒ??d buy a really good set of Bose ear phones to block out all the whining from the youngsters.... they bitch if they have to use an RTK system that isnƒ??t GNSS.... imagine if everything went back to old school..... 2nd thing- have a mtg with the powers that be about the revised timelines.

No big deal to me. ?ÿMuch of my work can be done without it.

Posted by: StLSurveyor

I saw this headline in my Google feed:

How would you be affected if at 05:00 you found out GPS was down indefinitely (survey work only)....

?ÿpersonally, I would be devastated...

Slightly off topic, but if GNSS were all down for an extended period there would be bigger troubles than how to survey.?ÿ Location would be the minor problem.?ÿ US society would be on the verge of falling apart because so many things wouldn't work without it for timing, like cell towers, police and fire comm, and maybe(?) even long-distance land lines, etc.

Back to topic: If the outage lasted very long and we figured out how to operate daily life, the the price of used total stations would skyrocket.?ÿ I think people willing to learn in order to keep their jobs would cope pretty well.?ÿ Used copies of Wolf & Ghilani would be in demand.?ÿ Data collectors would still be the crutch that makes a lot of learning optional.

And everybody would wish they had done more OPUS Share submissions while they had a chance.?ÿ Accurate geodetic control in your area would be precious.

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I have 10+ yrs in with transit and tape.

10 or so yrs in with total sta. Then added static, L1 units.

Around 10 yrs w topcon gps.

About 2 yrs w JAVAD.

Maybe I'd get a job w ups, or USPS, if the sats quit... Mmm hmm

Obviously the effect would be beyond Surveyors - just think about you and surveying...

Not a big deal, probably would be swamped. Like the "old days" running big traverses, everything in modified state plane.

Field books would get much larger again

Wouldnt bother me in the least as far as surveing goes.

Posted by: holy cow

No big deal to me. ?ÿMuch of my work can be done without it.

Agreed.?ÿ I pace a lot of my boundary work too... ??ÿ

I would have to take up smoking to know how far two smokes on horseback measures out.

If it was just GPS we could deal with it, although it would be a major headache. If the satellites them selves went down it is my understanding that most communications systems would fail, as they rely on the timing data the satellites provide to function.

GPS, we could survive without but internet loss would be worse and electricity would be rough without.

Posted by: dgm-pls

GPS, we could survive without but internet loss would be worse and electricity would be rough without.

No kidding, that would be rough.

But the loss of personal transportation (like cars) and the flush toilet in the US might mean the end of civilization as we know it..

Strictly surveying...GPS is just a tool, it's like asking could you build a house without a circular saw.?ÿ

For all the associated technology...

?ÿThe end of the human race will be that it will
eventually die of civilization.

Ralph Waldo Emerson

There is an entire?ÿ growing school of though growing among far left environmentalist that the age of "saving the planet" is over and it's time to plan for the worst.

http://dark-mountain.net/about/manifesto/

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Posted by: MightyMoe

Not a big deal, probably would be swamped. Like the "old days" running big traverses, everything in modified state plane.

that's "MODIN-FRICKIN-FRIED"

Wow. That is some heavy reading to get the day going.

Posted by: StLSurveyor

Wow. That is some heavy reading to get the day going.

Quite the cheerful bunch.?ÿ One of the authors is an interesting guy

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Paul_Kingsnorth

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EDIT - Fits in with my twitter bio:?ÿPersonally Traditionalist, Localist, Agrarian, Anti-Modern. Professionally High Tech