Where's the Corner

A monument in desperate need of rehabilitation.

I think you found one of these. ????

That looks like one monument broken in half?

Interesting.?ÿ I would shoot in the two ends, then keep digging all the way to the bottom of both to see what is going on down there.

When I see a slanted bar, for example, especially at a section corner, I start to think there might be a stone and the tip of the slanted bar is directly over the center of the stone.

A few days ago I was chatting with a client about a rural tract that happens to have a 25 year-old concrete county bridge nearby where we were standing.?ÿ I pointed to a power pole about 200 feet away and told him the quarter corner was fairly close to there as I had found a reference nail in that power pole.?ÿ He pointed to a cable warning sign post a few feet from us and said there was a reference nail in it because he had torn his lawnmower tire on it one time.?ÿ I knew that couldn't be a reference that I needed.?ÿ Took a look at what he had found.?ÿ It was the old double nail "step" that the bridge contractors had used for a temporary benchmark.

@mightymoe Good idea. We'll do that.

@brad-ott  One pipe has a diameter of 0.08 feet and the other has a diameter of 0.11 feet.

@holy-cow OK

not,

The real corner is wherever you set your interpretation of the "real" corner, right?

I have seen photographic evidence in this very chamber and with my own two eyes of "pincushions".

There has to be at least one of you sons-a-******* out there that would set another point.

Just sayin'.

JA, PLS SoCal

Posted by: @holy-cow

It was the old double nail "step" that the bridge contractors had used for a temporary benchmark.

Educate me, please.?ÿ What does that look like?

@bill93

duplex nail?

@bill93

You drive a 60d nail at a 45 degree angle into the side of a post/pole/stump so that the head is about two inches from the side of the object.  Then you drive in a second 60d horizontally such that its head is resting next to the other head such that the first nail is holding the second nail steady.  Voila.  You have a handy temporary benchmark somewhere close to your work site that can be referred back to over the life of the project.

@holy-cow

The concept of a spike in a pole as a TBM is familiar. This particular form is new to me. 

@mark-mayer

I believe the intent is to support the horizontal nail with the nail driven in at a 45.

@not-my-real-name

Must have been an over and under shotgun. ???? 

Posted by: @flga

Must have been an over and under shotgun. ?????ÿ

A bigger shotgun than I'd put up to my shoulder, with the larger barrel over an inch and a quarter diameter!

@bill93

OK, an over and under RPG. ???? 

Ok, I'd set another MONUMENT. Maybe. Depending. Tie the tops of those two. Research all deeds, in all directions. Dig down, find out what's below. I recently did one, where the monuments were in a road. Funky, bent, mangled monuments. I dug down, till I found the stable, non bent, vertical portion. These were old conduits, from the 1950's. They were fragile. I drove my own monument inside the remains of the conduit. The tops, were not in line with old retaining walls. The vertical parts of the old pipe remains were. I documented what I did, and provided extensive notes, telling what I found, and what I set. I have little doubt the the old bottom, vertical portion of those monuments is in fact the remains of the original monument. I have rehabilitated those old corners, and left behind a good monument. I'd love to "retrace" behind a surveyor, who did what I did. Landowners around here often find my survey monument, and ADD THEIR OWN. Like, a 3/8" x 3' electric fence post rebar, driven in about a foot. It's to help them find "the corner".

Document, dig, discover, and remonument. No foul.?ÿ

Nate

@nate-the-surveyor We did set a new monument there as the old pipes were just about paper thin and wold be gone in a short matter of time. Now there is a reinforcing rod and cap stamped with my identification alongside the old pipes. There are plenty of notes on the map to explain too. I think Mighty Moe said it best.. it looks in need of rehabilitation.