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I hope it doesn't get too nasty. Turn into a feud or something.

Hey - they could get their own reality show if they play their cards right!

Sounds like you may have some expert testimony time coming up. 🙂

Payden, I am copying that and sharing that with my little brother. We used to work together. He is a Pastor in Ohio, and I am a Surveyor in Arkansas. He will love that story!!!
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Thanks for the memories!

N

That "other surveyor" is running with scissors in both hands.:excruciating:

> That's why the original seller wanted to "unload" the house. The realtor states that can be taken care of with a "survey" that shows otherwise..and she knows where to get one. I have little to no professional respect for the firm that prepared the "survey".

The liability of the realtor/real estate company, however probably has to be as large or larger than the surveyor's if she knowingly procured a fraudulent product to deceive the buyer of the property. I'm still waiting to hear about a third party getting sued for steering members of the public to the providers of substandard services when the third party knows that the services are likely going to be faulty.

I'd ask the client to send copies of the documents backing up his case to the State Registration Board and the State Relators Board. Licenses could fall over this. That would be fun to watch!!

> I'd ask the client to send copies of the documents backing up his case to the State Registration Board and the State Relators Board. Licenses could fall over this. That would be fun to watch!!

We can only hope.

I just hope the individual who prepared the "survey" is a licensed surveyor. Then, and only then, would our state Board deal with it. If the "survey" was prepared by a non-licensed 'surveyor' then in New Hampshire our board is totally toothless, and the only recourse would be civil matters IF the Attorney Generals office wanted to pursue.

In truthfullness, our State Association(NHLSA) has in the past pursued issues like this, in effect "police ourselves" in cases of non-licensed surveyors being bad boys.

I hope that both the State Boards of Licensure for Engineers/Surveyors and for Realtors eventually gets wind of these circumstances.

I couldn't agree more with those saying that the respective boards should be informed. Both the surveyor and realtor sound like they need to be relieved of their licenses.

> I hope that both the State Boards of Licensure for Engineers/Surveyors and for Realtors eventually gets wind of these circumstances.

I'll go one step further and suggest its a duty to report those who perform acts such as those described. Not reporting the crime is akin to accepting those acts.

All too often we fail to self police.

Every time you point a finger, three are pointing back to yourself. Just be sure before you report.

I agree. If it is right to act, it is often wrong not to.

Someone please remind me again how it is that allowing "mortgage inspections" is protecting the public. Here is a good example where "the public" will likely be harmed.

I never understood why the licensing boards don't step in and take care of their #1 reason for existing. Protect the public. A survey should be a survey.

Larry P

Eh?

"Every time you point a finger, three are pointing back to yourself."

Is this from the Koran or something?

looks like a duck, walks like a duck, sounds like a duck...

col·lu·sion
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noun: collusion

Common: secret or illegal cooperation or conspiracy, especially in order to cheat
or deceive others.

Legal: illegal cooperation or conspiracy.

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I'm really not gonna stick my snoot too far into this. My professional responsibility is my client's boundary. I do have a copy of the "misleading" mortgage survey however.

This previous "survey" will be mentioned in my report. As to how corrosive my language will be is up in the air. The owner of the structure (buyer) provided this to my client. This buyer is pissed at his realtor, the surveyor, title company and the seller. He's lawyering up, as is my client.

Next Stop: Everybody's counsel is going to be wanting copies of my survey. I will probably provide multiple copies to my client and his attorney. Everybody else can call them for that info.

Experience has taught me that shrapnel from even small explosions can travel far. I'm wearing my flack jacket and toxic waste suit on this one, fer sure. B-)

> Someone please remind me again how it is that allowing "mortgage inspections" is protecting the public. Here is a good example where "the public" will likely be harmed.
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> I never understood why the licensing boards don't step in and take care of their #1 reason for existing. Protect the public. A survey should be a survey.
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> Larry P

I'm not a big fan of mortgage inspection "surveys" either, but let's not muddy the waters. The problem is not that a mortgage inspection exists. The problem is that it is fraudulent. This is also possible with a "real" survey.

Mark

I'm pretty sure they all will eventually catch wind of this.

BTW - Are you back up NW?

So the previous owner knew the addition was over the line, likely built it w/o a permit, your client, in a small town where everybody knows whats going on failed to see the addition being built over his line or did he? which would of course get estoppel involved. Surveyor blew it for sure but prvious owner and real estate person stand to lose the most. Your client at last can be a good guy and sell his vacant lot, which he probably would like to. Too bad everybody is lawyering up. If the money that will be spent on lawyers could instead help buy the lot, everybody would be better served. I still don't get why your client is so happy.

Mark

I am in Portland. I'll have news on the job front later this week.

looks like a duck, walks like a duck, sounds like a duck...

Need a white cowboy hat to go with that attire. 😉

What is it about human nature that I just loves watching bad guys going down in flames.