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not-my-real-name
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Rather than just describing a survey marker as a pin, I will get information about the size, the depth or condition. There is a list of found and set objects on the prepared map with that description. Each survey marker on the map has a point number that is referenced to the list.

Occasionally I will get tripped up on the diameter by someone questioning the description. It goes something like ƒ??is that the inside diameter or the outside diameter?ƒ? My reply should be that I really just meant to call it a pin.

Seriously, if I were a plumber then I could more easily understand the importance of making the distinction. However, the purpose of my description is to make the mark recognizable to the next person finding it. Recognizing the evidence that was uncovered in the case and described in such a way that is unmistakable. That is my goal, but, the propensity of people to intentionally misunderstand something is uncanny.

So, if my description of a 0.12 feet diameter galvanized pipe found down 0.5 feet gets picked apart because I did not include whether the diameter was the inside diameter or the outside diameter I havenƒ??t failed. If I am in a good mood I will explain that a pipe that is hammered into the ground to mark a survey corner will be damaged as a result. It is easier to measure the outside diameter with a caliper on a section of the pipe somewhere below the topƒ??

On second thought, why not just call it a pin. ?ÿ?ÿ


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Posted : September 12, 2018 9:34 am
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because 50 years from now it will matter

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learn to communicate


 
Posted : September 12, 2018 9:49 am
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If you can to a 1 inch pipe, and the next guy finds a 1 or 1.25?ÿ inch pipe he is going to know its the same pipe.

If you can a to a 1 inch pipe and the next guy finds a 2 inch pipe, questions needs to be ask.

If you call to a pin, you need to add some details like what size pin, is it a rod or pipe, capped, what is stamped on the cap.

In the notes I say 5/8" x 24" rebar with orange cap, however I rarely ever get the length of any pin I find. Just the diameter.?ÿ?ÿ


 
Posted : September 12, 2018 12:07 pm
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I have banned the word pin in this office from going on any plat and any description.?ÿ

I've seen pin used to describe rebar, pipes, axles, steering columns, flat bars, etc.....?ÿjust on things in this office.


 
Posted : September 12, 2018 12:48 pm
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Certainly need more description than "pin". I don't know how specific you need to get, but a metal cap of appropriate material for your area sure helps..


 
Posted : September 12, 2018 1:02 pm

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A pin is a small pointed wire used by tailors and people who sew.?ÿ


 
Posted : September 12, 2018 1:11 pm
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Posted by: Jim in AZ

A pin is a small pointed wire used by tailors and people who sew.?ÿ

I thought a pin was the code you entered into the ATM to get money out.


 
Posted : September 12, 2018 1:24 pm
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By law in our state, you are supposed to describe the exact nature of the corner found or set. It sure saves head scratching in even 5 years if that is followed like it is should be.


 
Posted : September 12, 2018 3:00 pm
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Tain't no pin. ?ÿIt's a stob.


 
Posted : September 12, 2018 3:32 pm
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Tradesmen who are normally associated with the use of pipes - plumbers - refer to pipes by the nominal inside diameter.?ÿ Go down to your local supply store and try to buy some 5/8" iron pipe. No one there will have any clue what WTF you are talking about. After you leave they will talk about you for years. So I reference it by it nominal, not actual, inside diameter like?ÿeverybody else other than surveyors does.?ÿ

People who use reinforcing iron for its intended purpose never refer to it as pins. They call it bar in its long form and rods (or, in specific cases, dowels) when it is shorter, as a survey monument?ÿ is. So I call it iron rod, by the nominal diameter, like everybody else other than surveyors does.?ÿ ?ÿ

IP = iron pipe

IR=iron rod

?ÿ


 
Posted : September 12, 2018 8:39 pm

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If it matches direction and distance and agrees with occupation...I call it good.


 
Posted : September 12, 2018 9:39 pm
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What should I call this?


 
Posted : September 12, 2018 11:05 pm
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@ LRDAY

"found boundary marker being 3/4in rebar with aluminum cap marked 2018 by LS 174871"


 
Posted : September 13, 2018 12:09 am
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@ LRDAY

"found boundary marker being 3/4in rebar with aluminum cap marked 2018 by LS 174871"

fixed it


 
Posted : September 13, 2018 5:56 am
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@ LRDAY

"found boundary marker being 3/4in rebar with aluminum cap marked 2018 by LS 174871"

fixed it

Actually it's #5 or 5/8in rebar.?ÿ It's not a cap or aluminum, rather a stainless steel disc welded to the rebar.?ÿ Hopefully it will last a long time.?ÿ They drive in the ground nicely with that Lixie dead blow hammer, doesn't damage the stamping at all.


 
Posted : September 13, 2018 6:19 am

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Cripes you're worried about peanuts when coconuts are falling on you.?ÿ?ÿ ??ÿ


 
Posted : September 13, 2018 10:25 am
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Posted by: LRDay
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@ LRDAY

"found boundary marker being 3/4in rebar with aluminum cap marked 2018 by LS 174871"

fixed it

Actually it's #5 or 5/8in rebar.?ÿ It's not a cap or aluminum, rather a stainless steel disc welded to the rebar.?ÿ Hopefully it will last a long time.?ÿ They drive in the ground nicely with that Lixie dead blow hammer, doesn't damage the stamping at all.

Well darn, that's an awesome monument. Homemade I presume?


 
Posted : September 13, 2018 10:35 am
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So you have to pre-weld those caps on and I gotta ask what do you do when you are in rocky ground and have to beat that rebar over to get back on the spot, won't you damage that disk?


 
Posted : September 13, 2018 11:01 am
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@ C. Tompkins. We are not required. However, it is suggested to make a thorough description. I feel that it is a common sense approach and will help in later recoveries. I'm all for that.


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Posted : September 13, 2018 11:17 am
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@LRDay That is a very nice survey marker... and a nice Lixie hammer too. I have one I got a dead blow hammer at the automotive supply store, and it doesn't weigh much or have a long handle. I am saving up for the Lixie. :- )


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Posted : September 13, 2018 11:21 am

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