i set a corner with a rag tape. I pulled it off the adjoiner's fence post. Chainlink. Skinnier than I like for a fence post because it gives the illusion of precision. That was for easting. Pulled northing off the utility pole at the back of the lot. There was nobody around to mentor however if there had been I might have been feeling charitable enough to explain that in the notes it is important to know that the distances include wrapping the chain around the pole twice so that none of the ties make sense without the secret decoder ring.
I don't care if it's "right". I'm gonna occupy to it until it's mine anyhow. More interested in finishing my convenience fence that is not and never has been anything other than a physical boundary.
Back to work. Too hot already.
Bad boy, bad boy, what ya gonna do......................................
:bomb:
Gonna retire here for health reasons pretty much. Adjoiners either have fences already or are absentee owners with undeveloped parcels. The fences and the GIS are at odds by eight or ten feet so who knows. I'll stob in my juniper post or whatever via "local report" and be done with it for a while. Dirt road and land too cheap to survey. I'm not licensed here so I didn't break out the millimeter machine. I'm doing what any layperson or landowner could do. Not meaning to yank anyone's chain.
That is such a loaded post.
It has puns.
Bad survey procedure.
Out of bounds, all the way.
Over the hill.
Through the dale.
Sounds like a story, from one of my clients
half bubble, post: 387365, member: 175 wrote: I'm not licensed here so I didn't break out the millimeter machine.
A surveying license is not needed for use of any particular piece of equipment. A surveying license is for setting corners
half bubble, post: 387310, member: 175 wrote: i set a corner with a rag tape..
Did a topo on a cell tower site a while back. I ran out of battery on the base and rover 2 hours from home...and the sun was going down. We had completed everything but a 1/2 acre worth of ground shots. Easy, grab the level. Uh, no level or TS in the truck, but had a 25' fiberglass rod....
Being a cell tower it was on top of a knoll. I stood on the highest point I could find and took notes by reading the rod at the horizon as the rodman walked a grid. It worked. The check cleared and the cell tower sits there to this day. Pretty serious confession there...hope I don't get the electric chair.
paden cash, post: 387520, member: 20 wrote: Did a topo on a cell tower site a while back. I ran out of battery on the base and rover 2 hours from home...and the sun was going down. We had completed everything but a 1/2 acre worth of ground shots. Easy, grab the level. Uh, no level or TS in the truck, but had a 25' fiberglass rod....
Being a cell tower it was on top of a knoll. I stood on the highest point I could find and took notes by reading the rod at the horizon as the rodman walked a grid. It worked. The check cleared and the cell tower sits there to this day. Pretty serious confession there...hope I don't get the electric chair.
You win the "Ted Dura Calibrated Banjo" award. Imagine a bronze plaque, about the diameter of a dime.
paden cash, post: 387520, member: 20 wrote: Did a topo on a cell tower site a while back. I ran out of battery on the base and rover 2 hours from home...and the sun was going down. We had completed everything but a 1/2 acre worth of ground shots. Easy, grab the level. Uh, no level or TS in the truck, but had a 25' fiberglass rod....
Being a cell tower it was on top of a knoll. I stood on the highest point I could find and took notes by reading the rod at the horizon as the rodman walked a grid. It worked. The check cleared and the cell tower sits there to this day. Pretty serious confession there...hope I don't get the electric chair.
You don't keep a Locke level in your truck? What kind of surveyor are you? (grin)
Andy
Andy Bruner, post: 387569, member: 1123 wrote: You don't keep a Locke level in your truck? What kind of surveyor are you? (grin)
Andy
Yes I do, but with my poor eyesight, bifocals and shaky hands from the DTs they are more trouble than they're worth, I can see better with just the horizon in front of me!
What is your RPA on those horizon shots? We have interference in this area as we can't really see the horizon.I assume these are RTH shots.
lmbrls, post: 387600, member: 6823 wrote: What is your RPA on those horizon shots? We have interference in this area as we can't really see the horizon.I assume these are RTH shots.
I'm not really understanding RPA and RTH....hey, I'll admit I'm old. But I never said I was smart...;)
half bubble, post: 387365, member: 175 wrote: Gonna retire here for health reasons pretty much. Adjoiners either have fences already or are absentee owners with undeveloped parcels. The fences and the GIS are at odds by eight or ten feet so who knows. I'll stob in my juniper post or whatever via "local report" and be done with it for a while. Dirt road and land too cheap to survey. I'm not licensed here so I didn't break out the millimeter machine. I'm doing what any layperson or landowner could do. Not meaning to yank anyone's chain.
Thank god you will be retiring soon:)
paden cash, post: 387610, member: 20 wrote: I'm not really understanding RPA and RTH....
Me neither....
Thought I'd be smart and google it; Role Playing Assistant and Rock The House didn't seem to fit. So...I'm back to scratching my head.
One of my first PC jobs was tasked to topo about 60 acres of the densest spruce covered land I'd ever laid eyes on. Could see maybe 20' if you were lucky. No way RTK (had I had it) or conventional was going to complete the job in a timely fashion. Boss Surveyor instructed me to lay out a grid on 50' spacing and had me drag a rag tape using a compass for line and carried elevations as I went using a P-gun and fiberglass rod making a turn every 50' on those compass lines. Took a while but worked well enough to topo the whole thing for 1' contours where none of that high tech gear would work. Learned a valuable lesson. Sometimes just got to go back to basics. I'm also pretty sure there's no law against a property owner setting his own corners, though some might say he has the same client as the fellow that acts as his own attorney. But hey, that's his business and not mine.
Williwaw, post: 387639, member: 7066 wrote: ..Sometimes just got to go back to basics..
I wonder how many surveyors could find their way if dropped into the woods on a moonless night or a cloudy day, with no compass, gear or maps, and find their way to safety? My instincts and senses are my most valuable tools sometimes.
Instincts and senses, eh????
I'm reminded of a very confusing story involving Mama Skunk and her youngun's named In and Out. It starts off with In and Out going out to play. Somehow Out lost In and went home alone. Mama noticed that Out came in without In. (insert long complicated story with 88 uses of in and out) Finally, Out comes in with In. Mama asked Out how he found In. He said, "In stinked."
paden cash, post: 387610, member: 20 wrote: I'm not really understanding RPA and RTH....hey, I'll admit I'm old. But I never said I was smart...;)
Sorry being a smart a__. I was just making reference to some that would say you need to be able to determine the Relative Positional Accuracy for every point. RTH is relative to the horizon, which I completely mad up. Actually as we almost never can see the horizon, I thought you approach was novel.
lmbrls, post: 387678, member: 6823 wrote: Sorry being a smart a__. I was just making reference to some that would say you need to be able to determine the Relative Positional Accuracy for every point. RTH is relative to the horizon, which I completely mad up. Actually as we almost never can see the horizon, I thought you approach was novel.
I was at "Really Powerful Astigmatism" and "Relative Temple Height"....;)
Speaking of horizons...a buddy of mine took an automobile trip up through some of Northern Canada. He said when they finally got to some mountains it was wonderful...but there were apparently hour upon hours of driving a highway that was bounded on both sides by 60' pines...you couldn't see a thing. He said it made him claustrophobic!
paden cash, post: 387679, member: 20 wrote: but there were apparently hour upon hours of driving a highway that was bounded on both sides by 60' pines...you couldn't see a thing. He said it made him claustrophobic!
That reminds me of my first train trip behind a steam locomotive at the Texas State Railroad. You couldn't see the forest for all the trees. Made for a miserable trip for this guy coming from West Texas where it is so flat and barren you can see the back of your head with a good telescope.
