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MightyMoe
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I've seen many different ways of calling out a quarter corner:

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N1/4 of Sec.36

The north quarter corner of Section 36

The one quarter corner common to Section 25 and Section 36

NW corner of the NE1/4 of Section 36

Common 1/4 to Sections 25 and 36

NE corner of the NW1/4 or Section 36

Which is your favorite??ÿ

(Not saying it needs to be one of the above).?ÿ

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Posted : April 12, 2023 6:56 am
brad-ott
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NQC 36

 
Posted : April 12, 2023 7:01 am
allen-wrench
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I usually say the North, South, East, or West 1/4 corner of [the section you're working in, if only one].  Otherwise, it's the 1/4 corner common to Sections X & Y. 

For some reason, I cringe when I see a reference to the "one" quarter corner.  Maybe they don't want it to be confused with the two quarter corner.

 

 
Posted : April 12, 2023 7:39 am
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For some reason, I cringe when I see a reference to the "one" quarter corner.  Maybe they don't want it to be confused with the two quarter corner.

The One Quarter Corner, being the Point of Beginning, from which the True Point of Beginning bears N00°00'00"E (basis of bearings True North, not False North), being more particularly (not less particularly) described by the words that follow this sentence, in case you couldn't figure out that the (true) description is going to be described next from the context of this sentence, to wit:

 
Posted : April 12, 2023 7:58 am
MightyMoe
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@allen-wrench 

That's how I've usually done it. There are quite a few sections around here with quarter corners that only apply to one section and those are a no-brainer to say West 1/4 corner of Section 30, since it's not the E1/4 corner of Section 25

 
Posted : April 12, 2023 9:12 am

holy-cow
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If it is the POC or POB for a description, I prefer to refer to it as the (whatever) corner of the quarter section in which the surveyed tract is located.  Otherwise, simply the (whatever) quarter corner is fine.

 
Posted : April 12, 2023 10:13 am
dave-karoly
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The quarter section corner to Sections 25 and 36

old descriptions will often have the northeast corner of the northwest quarter of Section 36.

In Cogo I use: [QSC 25 36] or [SC 25 26 35 36] (without the [])

 
Posted : April 12, 2023 10:35 am
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@holy-cow 

Your average, every day, land owner, is absolutely clueless as to what a Quarter Corner is; let alone a section...

If your average, every day, surveyor has a problem with any of these:

  • N1/4 of Sec.36
  • The north quarter corner of Section 36
  • The one quarter corner common to Section 25 and Section 36
  • NW corner of the NE1/4 of Section 36
  • Common 1/4 to Sections 25 and 36
  • NE corner of the NW1/4 or Section 36

They may want to rethink their life...

 
Posted : April 12, 2023 11:35 am
holy-cow
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@dougie 

It isn't just land owners.  Many years ago I had a title company employee jump me because my description began at the East Quarter Corner of the section.  She had no idea where that was and, therefore, believed that no one else did, either.  This is in the days when I was hand drafting everything.  I told her I would take her issue under advisement for future use, but, I WAS NOT GOING TO MUTILATE THE PLAT.  She relented.  Today, I would probably go along with her request.

 
Posted : April 12, 2023 12:16 pm
aliquot
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@holy-cow what did she want the description to say say? 

Don't ever give in to the title companies unless they are actually right. You are the land description proffesional, not them. 

 
Posted : April 12, 2023 12:47 pm

holy-cow
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Absotively, posilutely , we all is.

" proffesional"

 
Posted : April 12, 2023 1:11 pm
MightyMoe
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@holy-cow 

Title and lawyers often dislike the North 1/4 corner and would rather see the northwest corner of the NE 1/4. Early in my career I was offended, but as I gained experience I see their point. Inside baseball surveying terms maybe aren't as descriptive. I will still use the North 1/4 in my description, but for other calls and situations I won't use the surveying term. 

If I'm running west along the south line of the NE1/4NE1/4 I won't say to the NE1/16th corner, I will call it the southwest corner of the NE1/4NE1/4 for simplicity for the non-surveyor.  

 
Posted : April 12, 2023 1:19 pm
RADAR
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Posted : April 12, 2023 1:22 pm
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Not often, but around here I've seen quarter corners referred to as a "one-half section corner".

 

 
Posted : April 12, 2023 1:37 pm
holy-cow
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In our area where most section lines are running along the approximate center lines of roads, most lay people can visualize what a section amounts to.  Referring to the point a half mile from any of the road intersections as a half-mile corner makes some sense to them.  Sometimes it helps to further explain that the majority of homesteaders ended up with one fourth of a section, whether it be in the NE, NW, SW or SE corner.  That's why we call them quarter sections.

 
Posted : April 12, 2023 3:47 pm

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Maybe sometime before I retire I'll call out a 4096/16,384th corner on a survey to mess with people.

 
Posted : April 12, 2023 8:23 pm
holy-cow
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@bstrand 

Doesn't matter if it is some guy pitching woo or a coin worth 25 cents.  I pronounce both of them the same........a courter.  Just can't get myself to make that KW sound the rest of you do.  Same thing at the grocery store when purchasing a court of milk.

 
Posted : April 12, 2023 10:21 pm
jitterboogie
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For some reason, I cringe when I see a reference to the "one" quarter corner.  Maybe they don't want it to be confused with the two quarter corner.

The One Quarter Corner, being the Point of Beginning, from which the True Point of Beginning bears N00°00'00"E (basis of bearings True North, not False North), being more particularly (not less particularly) described by the words that follow this sentence, in case you couldn't figure out that the (true) description is going to be described next from the context of this sentence, to wit:

 

sadly people are still using the very words which you provided... hopefully no one here copied the text to use in their next disaster to provide the public or a client...

not False North....if you build a system for idiots....

 

 
Posted : April 13, 2023 5:41 am
northernsurveyor
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How about following the guidance in the BLM Manuals?  The quarter section corner of sections 8 and 9"

 
Posted : April 14, 2023 10:12 am
Jim in AZ
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The one quarter corner common to Section 25 and Section 36

 

 
Posted : April 14, 2023 11:42 am