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Nothing a little Ben Gay and an ACE support strap can't help manage, but I wonder if you all have any other helpful thoughts?

I am right handed and the pain is in my right elbow region. It really flared up yesterday while driving lath into the thankfully soft ground.

Also, it really flares up when I carry the prism rod / bipod arrangement around for staking or topo shots. I think this is the root cause. Since I am right handed I think my brain has been having my body torque in less than ideal ways to man handle the bipod.

So today the plan is to run topo relying more on my left hand/elbow. Why not ruin them both, right?

Should I get rid of the bipod? I really like it though for leaving the data collector and prism pole upright and nearby to maintain robot lock and easy access to the DC.

Maybe I should get a light weight bi pod?

Maybe I should retrain my brain to handle this equipment in a smarter safer way?

I have seen that short "bi pod" thingy some of you guys use to lay down the rod, but I don't think I would like that with my work flow habits.

Other thoughts?


 
Posted : December 17, 2015 7:34 am
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maybe treat yourself to a 100% carbon pole, they are a bit lighter.

unload the bipod when you don't always need it.

when my arm starts to fatigue from carrying pole, controller, prism, antenna, etc. i find i start to carry the pole with both hands


 
Posted : December 17, 2015 7:38 am
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Tennis elbow. Get a cortisone shot.


 
Posted : December 17, 2015 7:40 am
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I had some really bad right elbow pain this summer. I couldn't hold a milk jug it hurt so bad.

I used a tennis ball to find trigger points in my forearm and just pressed it into them until they pretty much 'dissolved' out. It will hurt like hell, but it's worth it. I also started stretching it all the time and used my left hand for everything. I even moved to the 1"x 1" lathe so I had a bigger target to drive with my left hand. I liked the 1 bys so much, I still use them.

There are some good youtube videos on tennis/golfer's elbow worth checking out.

Good luck.

BTW, it does get better if you take care of it! I am driving with my right again.


 
Posted : December 17, 2015 7:41 am
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fiberglass pole and gardener rod rest

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http://www.engineersupply.com/Seco-Gardner-Engineering-Rodrest-5214-01.aspx?utm_source=google&utm_medium=cse&utm_term=ES2828&gclid=CLezxICD48kCFU0XHwodHhoNCg


 
Posted : December 17, 2015 7:42 am

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This is usually called machete arm by surveyors. Road traversing for a few days will help.


 
Posted : December 17, 2015 7:46 am
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J Tanner, post: 349468, member: 7358 wrote: This is usually called machete arm by surveyors. Road traversing for a few days will help.

I get machete arm for sure, but its usually more in the top part of my forearm below the elbow.


 
Posted : December 17, 2015 8:15 am
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Perhaps you are using your right arm for too many duties.

How does you left arm get by, do you just keep it dangling aside you body,

gotta train the entire appendages of your body to do things that your other appendages do so you can continue normal lifestyles when injured.

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Posted : December 17, 2015 8:17 am
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Mine is in my left elbow. And yes I'm left-handed. I attribute the pain to all the years of slamming hubs with a 4 lb. shop hammer. Carrying a rod doesn't aggravate it, but driving a hub kills me.


 
Posted : December 17, 2015 8:21 am
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I had some serious elbow pain years ago. I could tell it was deep and not just muscle pain though. It turned out that the 'ball' in the joint was dead and was on the verge of collapsing. I had a bone graft done and it took just fine. It was a very debilitating pain, deep and nauseating.

I have learned to transfer the weight between my left and right arms because I get tendonitis in my shoulders now......


 
Posted : December 17, 2015 8:24 am

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I've had medial epicondylitis (golfer's elbow) in my right arm twice. (Note that tennis elbow is lateral epicondylitis. Both are pretty much the same thing, just different sides of the elbow.) The first time was in 1997, and it was the direct result of spending several days trying to pound 2"x2" hubs into a landfill area that was loaded with broken concrete. (I finally switched to spikes, but by then my elbow was trashed.) The second time was maybe five years ago, and it was brought on by months of doing too many chin-ups and pull-ups. Both occurrences took a couple of years to fully heal.

The first time I just toughed it out, the second time I saw a doc and did a bunch of PT. I'm not sure any of that made a difference in the result or the time to heal.

I'm okay now, my right elbow will get a little sore if I do too much, but then it goes away in a few days. I had to give up the chin-ups, though, they were just too hard on the joints.


 
Posted : December 17, 2015 8:52 am
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I have had it in both elbows...comes and goes I guess. Now the hips are starting to fail. Way way too many miles on them. A persons body can only take so much.


 
Posted : December 17, 2015 8:57 am
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Thanks to everyone. Topo shots are going a okay this morning with out the bipod altogether. Old dog ~ New trick.


 
Posted : December 17, 2015 10:17 am
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Y
ou might want to ditch the compression bandage and try Kino tape. It's not that expensive if it works.
Plus it comes in FLO-Pink too. ; )
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Posted : December 17, 2015 10:22 am
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I feel your pain man. Been dealing with this for years. Earlier thread on subject:

https://surveyorconnect.com/threads/falling-apart.322609

After dealing with it all summer, it's finally gotten better, but I'm only a hammer blow from having it flare up all over again. Be kind to your body, only one you got.


Just because I'm paranoid, doesn't mean they aren't out to get me.

 
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Perhaps post this on a board read by someone knowledgeable in the health field, such as doctors, etc.?

Just a thought...


 
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Brad Ott, post: 349462, member: 197 wrote: Nothing a little Ben Gay and an ACE support strap can't help manage, but I wonder if you all have any other helpful thoughts?

I am right handed and the pain is in my right elbow region. It really flared up yesterday while driving lath into the thankfully soft ground.

Also, it really flares up when I carry the prism rod / bipod arrangement around for staking or topo shots. I think this is the root cause. Since I am right handed I think my brain has been having my body torque in less than ideal ways to man handle the bipod.

So today the plan is to run topo relying more on my left hand/elbow. Why not ruin them both, right?

Should I get rid of the bipod? I really like it though for leaving the data collector and prism pole upright and nearby to maintain robot lock and easy access to the DC.

Maybe I should get a light weight bi pod?

Maybe I should retrain my brain to handle this equipment in a smarter safer way?

I have seen that short "bi pod" thingy some of you guys use to lay down the rod, but I don't think I would like that with my work flow habits.

Other thoughts?

Brad Ott, post: 349462, member: 197 wrote: Nothing a little Ben Gay and an ACE support strap can't help manage, but I wonder if you all have any other helpful thoughts?

I am right handed and the pain is in my right elbow region. It really flared up yesterday while driving lath into the thankfully soft ground.

Also, it really flares up when I carry the prism rod / bipod arrangement around for staking or topo shots. I think this is the root cause. Since I am right handed I think my brain has been having my body torque in less than ideal ways to man handle the bipod.

So today the plan is to run topo relying more on my left hand/elbow. Why not ruin them both, right?

Should I get rid of the bipod? I really like it though for leaving the data collector and prism pole upright and nearby to maintain robot lock and easy access to the DC.

Maybe I should get a light weight bi pod?

Maybe I should retrain my brain to handle this equipment in a smarter safer way?

I have seen that short "bi pod" thingy some of you guys use to lay down the rod, but I don't think I would like that with my work flow habits.

Other thoughts?

Perhaps post this on a board read by someone knowledgeable in the health field, such as doctors, etc.?
Just a thought...


 
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Brad Ott, post: 349462, member: 197 wrote: Nothing a little Ben Gay and an ACE support strap can't help manage, but I wonder if you all have any other helpful thoughts?

I am right handed and the pain is in my right elbow region. It really flared up yesterday while driving lath into the thankfully soft ground.

Also, it really flares up when I carry the prism rod / bipod arrangement around for staking or topo shots. I think this is the root cause. Since I am right handed I think my brain has been having my body torque in less than ideal ways to man handle the bipod.

So today the plan is to run topo relying more on my left hand/elbow. Why not ruin them both, right?

Should I get rid of the bipod? I really like it though for leaving the data collector and prism pole upright and nearby to maintain robot lock and easy access to the DC.

Maybe I should get a light weight bi pod?

Maybe I should retrain my brain to handle this equipment in a smarter safer way?

I have seen that short "bi pod" thingy some of you guys use to lay down the rod, but I don't think I would like that with my work flow habits.

Other thoughts?

Perhaps post this on a board read by someone knowledgeable in the health field, such as doctors, etc.?
Just a thought...


 
Posted : December 17, 2015 11:16 am
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Brad-

Having ouchies is not fun.

Have you tried a straw to access the comfort juice ?

:party:

TNAI


 
Posted : December 17, 2015 1:28 pm
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Last year was tune up number 16. My elbows were numbers 9 and 11.
There are a zillion variations of what can go wrong with your elbows. Many common issues have the same basic symptoms. At the end of it you kind of need them to work if you want to Survey...
See a Doc and get yourself better, Tom


 
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