Bachelor of Science in Civil Engineering Technology SIU Carbondale.?ÿ Illinois has been requiring a 4 year degree now for several years, it wasn't required when I got my license.?ÿ There are very few programs that actually have a degree in surveying.?ÿ
Non Surveying degree here....B.S. in Physics with a minor in mathematics. That said the degree can't be used towards a surveying license. I guess I don't have enough math or something.
More Education might help me with writing and running a business. And math beyond high school geometry and trig that I aced and algebra that I flunked because the teacher was on idiot would definitely be an asset.
BS Geomatics - Oregon institute of Technology. When I started it was called BS in Surveying but they changed the name mid way, and that's just how it worked out.?ÿ
School of Hard knocks at:
Us Forest Service,99-00; Washington State DOT-2001;?ÿ PSOMAS (WestLA)2002-2006;?ÿ WRGDesign, CARDNO (Portland) 2006-2010;?ÿ Mackay Sposito 2010-2017;?ÿCompass Land Surveyors.2017-Present.
Non Surveying degree here....B.S. in Physics with a minor in mathematics. That said the degree can't be used towards a surveying license. I guess I don't have enough math or something.
Earlier I related a story about a young employee who sought licensure with a BS in a related field with a survey minor... The fellow was three credits away from actually having his associates in surveying. While he could still get licensed based on experience alone (6 years apprenticeship), he was given no credit at all for his education.?ÿ His path to licensure would have been the same as a high school drop out. He was told that his best option was to go back to college & finish his degree.?ÿ Instead, he left the state and is doing who knows what now.?ÿ
I have a BS in Land Surveying and a minor GIS for Oregon Tech.?ÿ
B S in Surveying from New Mexico State University?ÿ?ÿ
B S in History?ÿ Illinois State University... (but really just drinking beer, mostly)?ÿ?ÿ
BSCE from Purdue, majored in Geodesy, minor in transportation
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How many old timers remember this...
"And here is our first guest, a former Harvard professor of philosophy, a holder of a PhD., an MA, a BA, and he's a BMF besides, Bob Bitchin..."
BS in a non surveying field.
In theory I support a surveying degree requirement, but I don't think most programs are doing a good enough job to justify it. They are training geomaticians, not land surveyors.
I think possesing a four year degree from a liberal art program, including the hard sciences, is a more useful measure of a person's ability to be a successful proffesional than an engineering based program.
Of course, I do recognize that there are many great surveyors with engineering degrees, or no degree at all. The problem is, how do you identify those people??ÿ
Wholeheartedly agree.?ÿ I have a BA in Speech from Western Kentucky (I had the intention of becoming a trial lawyer), but I lost interest in the law profession into my junior year and started taking Geography courses.?ÿ I have a minor in Geography and could have had a double major if I would have hung around.?ÿ IMHO, a degree matters.?ÿ The University teaches students how to think which means...I never acted like a technician around engineers.?ÿ I've noticed non- degreed surveyors are too deferential around people in authority.
Why wouldn't he just go get the damn three credits???ÿ Talk about cutting your nose off to spite your face.?ÿ ?ÿ sheesh.?ÿ?ÿ
Bachelor of Civil Engineering Technology - Structural Design Option.?ÿ Due to my somewhat weird path to a degree there ended up being only one course difference between the Surveying Option and the Structural Design Option.?ÿ When I applied for graduation , Spring quarter,?ÿthe last surveying course was next to be offered Fall quarter but the design course fit right in so that's what I took.?ÿ Like Holy Cow I'm an LS and a PE.?ÿ Strangely enough the ONLY time I've ever stamped a drawing with my PE stamp was an as-built of a sanitary sewer project.?ÿ The client demanded a PE stamp so I just did the work as a surveyor and put the PE stamp on it.
Andy
AS in Land Surveying Technology from Glenville State College, WV 1993. GO PIONEERS!!! Licensed in VA since 2006.
My father was a PE (Civil) in OH, WV and VA and an LS in OH and VA. He held a BS degree in Mining Engineering from Virginia Tech, '58.
Thanks to my dad knowing Rick Sypolt and getting me into the Glenville State program, I really found my niche when I landed there. Took me a little while to get my skin, but I got it.?ÿ
I like the theory of a 4 year degree to get licensed, but lately, most of the 4-year degree holders in my area are the ones mucking things up.?ÿ
Virginia still allows for licensing without a degree.?ÿ
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Carl
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Not that simple... Newly married with a young child & all of the demands (financial & time) that come with it... No in-state or online course offered that would meet requirements. Essentially faced with leaving/moving the family for 6 months to get 3 credits that you can't afford or walking away. I agree with you, there are always options, but nothing is ever as easy as it seems.?ÿ
Degree, but in nothing related to surveying.?ÿ The education has never helped me, but the piece of paper did in order to get my first license.?ÿ Then that license helped to get the other two.
I think that it's unfortunate that the arbitrary degree requirements prevent certain talented people in the profession from obtaining their license.?ÿ I think that it's especially absurd when many of the proponents for degree requirements don't have one themselves.?ÿ Sorry for the hijack/minor rant
I have a BS in Surveying Engineering Technology from Alfred State College in NY.
A lot of surveyors in NY either have an AAS or BS from Alfred.
Some?ÿsurveyors in NY have an AAS degree?ÿin Surveying Technology from Paul Smith's College.
Currently, Paul Smith's College has only a two-year AAS ABET accredited?ÿsurvey program. They are prepared?ÿto change it to 4 BS if NY considers a 4-year degree requirement?ÿfor licensure.?ÿ
Also, some surveyors in NY have an AAS in Survey Technology from Wanakena Ranger School, SUNY-ESF.
But I am a lowly Forest Tech grad from there, and continued on to get my BS in Forestry.?ÿ Few years after graduation found a surveying job and stuck with it.?ÿ At the Ranger School the forestry and survey students take the same courses for the first half of the year, so I had a good handle on surveying and drafting after graduation.
Degree, but in nothing related to surveying.?ÿ The education has never helped me, but the piece of paper did in order to get my first license.?ÿ Then that license helped to get the other two.
I think that it's unfortunate that the arbitrary degree requirements prevent certain talented people in the profession from obtaining their license.?ÿ I think that it's especially absurd when many of the proponents for degree requirements don't have one themselves.?ÿ Sorry for the hijack/minor rant
Sort of my point. Degree requirements are fine, but I fail to see the logic of a state licensing board requiring a degree in surveying or geomatics when the state-sponsored?ÿuniversities don't offer one. If the state schools don't offer a survey or geomatics degree then some consideration of a related math/science degree should be given.
Yes, I have an AAS in Forest Technology with a concentration in Surveying but now they have an actual AAS in Surveying Technology since the Ranger School's surveying program was accredited by ABET.
B.S. in?ÿMechanical Engineering from Gonzaga University.?ÿ It got 1 year knocked off the 10 I needed to sit for the PLS for not having a Survey related degree.?ÿ
AS in Computer Science from Colorado Tech College
10 years of field experience got my first license in Colorado and then on to Oklahoma.?ÿ ?ÿNow have 20 that I have learned more than in any classroom.
Need a degree to get more licenses, so I got BAS in Land Surveying/Geomatics from Great Basin College.?ÿ ?ÿNow have NM license.?ÿ?ÿ
Onward to other states...
I started work at a survey shop in 2001 with little more than a high school education, went back to school during the recession and earned a AAS in Civil Engineering Graphics, which is hardly worth the paper it is printed on.?ÿ
LSIT only, I would like to get a degree and work toward licensure at some point but for now I am just putting one foot in front of the other with the construction thing.
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