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Washington's amended rules took effect August 1. You can now sit for the NCEES principles and practice exam before finishing the experience requirement. The experience still has to be there before the state exam and before licensure, and Washington still wants eight years total.

So the gate didn't move. The timing did.

Which is a narrower thing than what Florida did — that one opened the exam to people who haven't met the education or work requirements at all.

What I'm curious about is whether the sequencing was ever the problem. Is there a good reason to make somebody wait most of eight years before they can sit for it? Or does taking it earlier, while the book work is still fresh, make more sense than taking it after you've been doing the job long enough that the exam is the easy part?

And for those of you who took it late: would you rather have taken it early?

 

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Posted : September 17, 2026 9:32 am
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I was exempt from Fundamentals in MD because of my years of experience. I had to take Principles and Practice and both State exams. Past first time through.

Fast forward to PA, they actually made me go back and take Fundamentals then the State exam !


 
Posted : September 17, 2026 11:12 am
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I believe that the main reason for the change is so that board staff doesn't have to vet applicant qualifications until it has been demonstrated that it is actually necessary to do so. 


 
Posted : September 17, 2026 1:21 pm
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For me, I don't think that taking the P & P exam earlier would have been an advantage. I am skilled at sitting for tests. If I have the knowledge, I don't suffer from test anxiety or whatever it is that causes people who know the material to fail at an exam. I think the on-the-job experience went a long way in driving home the lessons I learned in my college program. I might possibly have passed the exam if I had taken it a few years earlier. I knew I would pass it taking it when I did.


 
Posted : September 18, 2026 6:32 am
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I posed that question to the MO board and no one would venture an answer. MO does not require NCEES to request permission for an applicant to sit, but some states do I believe. I had my time in before sitting for the FS. I could not get an answer for the PS, so I took a chance and sat for it. My thinking was I'd have it all out of the way and be able to sit in January for the State Specifics Part 1 and 2. Although I passed the PS in July, I believe, my time wasnt fulfilled until Dec. 7. I applied immediately thereafter, but they told me the January session was full, so I still had to wait until April anyway. It's been an incredible journey, very rewarding in all aspects.


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Posted : September 19, 2026 3:10 pm

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I have no problem with someone taking the test early if it gives them the needed incentive to continue on and get licensed. It would also show a future employer that you have some knowledge (enough to pass the bloody test!) and motivation for the job. 


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Posted : September 19, 2026 8:16 pm
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but they told me the January session was full,

What a crock of manure. There is no reason to refuse someone based on how many people are taking the test. That is purely trying to limit qualified providers of the service. "It is too cumbersome to evaluate 5 more test takers' answers" is a pathetic excuse for denying someone the opportunity to pass the exam. 


 
Posted : September 19, 2026 11:31 pm
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PA wanted you to take the FS because they do not waive any part of the NCEES exam and expect those of us applying for comedy to have satisfied their exam requirements.  I'm licensed in NJ and have been for 33 years after passing both the FS and PS and all I need to do in PA is pass the state specific which would require me to learn their drainage design, not worth the effort at my age.

PA was not much help for me but when I was looking at FLA, their board was very easy to communicate with but I decided not to pursue either license at my age.


 
Posted : September 24, 2026 12:28 pm