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I am middle aged male with years of timber surveying but not land surveying. I want to complete a degree in LPS. I have unlimited time
and can travel for school. What school would be a good choice to do BS ..I am in Florida for 5 months a year but can change plans for school.
Dont want online stuff and would like to accelerate the study. I have 2 years college from 25 years ago. I want credit for that stuff too.
Where would you go for this ????
Thanks


 
Posted : August 26, 2015 2:55 pm
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In Florida, University of Florida in G'ville or Florida Atlantic University in Boca Raton (where I'm "attending" when I can get classes online), but FAU might not have the program much longer because they haven't graduated 30 students in the Geomatics program in the first 5 years the program has been around.


 
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any others?? how about the panhandle????
btw how much of the required can be done online and really get it???
any notable schools else where in the US that do a good comprehensive program but fast??


 
Posted : August 26, 2015 6:17 pm
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Check out Great Basin College. That's where I'm looking.

I had looked at ETSU (East TN State). They have a great program, but they did not give me much transfer credit.


 
Posted : August 26, 2015 8:04 pm
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Don't know whether ot meets your requirements but check out: http://gisc.tamucc.edu

They have a Geomatics option. Lots of links on the page including scholarships and internships (paid). While not in Florida, it is similarly hot and humid...


 
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Paul Smiths College (AS only)
Alfred State (Bachelors Degree offered)

Both in NY.


 
Posted : August 27, 2015 5:54 am
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I believe (not sure) that Troy State (Alabama) has a Geomatics option.


 
Posted : August 27, 2015 6:26 am
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GeeOddMike, post: 333680, member: 677 wrote: Don't know whether ot meets your requirements but check out: http://gisc.tamucc.edu

They have a Geomatics option. Lots of links on the page including scholarships and internships (paid). While not in Florida, it is similarly hot and humid...

I'm currently enrolled in Texas A&M - Corpus Christi, I live in Houston. Every course for the degree is online. I sit at home in my recliner and watch lectures and do labs. It is a very viable option. I understand you don't want to go the online route, but it was fairly easy to get into the swing of things after 25 years of no schooling.

The main drawback to this program is that it stresses GIS and if you are against GIS, then this isn't a program for you. I've learned a bunch from the 2 semesters I've taken. I see the value for GIS and how it can help everyone.


 
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The University of Florida has a very good program. Nicholls State here in Thibodaux LA has one of the best in the country, but it's not for you if you want an accelerated program, it's demanding and there's no way to speed it up.


 
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UCONN and University of Maine Orono are good candidates.


 
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Priority 1 is to make sure it's ABET accredited. Many states will give you a runaround when you apply for the LS exam if your education was not from an ABET accredited program.

Don't be afraid of taking real math and physics classes. If your program allows technical physics, go one better and take real, calc-based physics for science and engineering majors. As Charlie Munger says, education is a latticework on which to hang your ideas. Create the best latticework you can, and it will pay off for life.


 
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The gal at FSU Geo suggested getting a certificate only and using old credits to get a generic BA. MY work experience would be enough to substitute for the practical part of the program.
That would qualify to take the LPS
exam. I would take the LPS for Florida,Idaho,Montana and Washington. But all this Calc and physics...not my best area....
I have years of Timber Surveying which involved daily line and corner locating and map making. I wish I could trade that for a degree
of some kind. Soon enough there will be degrees for work experience only I would guess.


 
Posted : August 31, 2015 2:30 pm
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You might start here:

http://main.abet.org/aps/accreditedprogramsearch.aspx


 
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FrozenNorth, post: 333793, member: 10219 wrote: Priority 1 is to make sure it's ABET accredited. Many states will give you a runaround when you apply for the LS exam if your education was not from an ABET accredited program.

Don't be afraid of taking real math and physics classes. If your program allows technical physics, go one better and take real, calc-based physics for science and engineering majors. As Charlie Munger says, education is a latticework on which to hang your ideas. Create the best latticework you can, and it will pay off for life.

Is this really the case anywhere? If so where? I don't have an ABET degree and have not had any problems (4 states). Every state I have looked at allows ABET degrees or "other board approved curriculum". In my experience the ABET degree programs are very week on boundary law. This, to me, is the most important area of surveying to have formal education in.


 
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8p35hg, post: 333631, member: 10401 wrote: I am middle aged male with years of timber surveying but not land surveying. I want to complete a degree in LPS. I have unlimited time
and can travel for school. What school would be a good choice to do BS ..I am in Florida for 5 months a year but can change plans for school.
Dont want online stuff and would like to accelerate the study. I have 2 years college from 25 years ago. I want credit for that stuff too.
Where would you go for this ????
Thanks

University of Maine - Orono, ME

Undergrad and Graduate School. (I am currently in the grad school)


N10,000, E7,000, Z100.00
PLS - IL, MO, AR, KS, MN, KY

 
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What does your 2 years consist of?

Bookmarks
ABET Accredited Programs Search ABET and
ACSM American Congress on Surveying and Mapping

Colleges-Universities
AK-Alaska-edu Geomatics
AL - Troy Univ Surveying and Geomatics BS
AR- Univ Ark Monticello-Land Surveying Tech AS
AR-UArkCCMorrilton Surveying AAS
AZ-Phoenix College- Surveying Tech AAS
CA-Evergreen Valley Col- CE Tech Surveying Certificate
CA-Santa Rosa Jr Coll- Geospatial Tech Certificate
CA-Santiago Canyon College - AS Surveying
Cal Poly Civil Engineering Geospatial
Cal State Fresno Geomatics Engineering
CO-Metro State Denver- Surveying and Mapping
CO-Westwood Coll Surveying AAS
FL Florida Atlantic U Geomatics Engineering BS
FL Univ of Florida Geomatics
FL-UF Undergrad Catalog
FL-Univ of FL-Online Geomatics (MS)
GA - Southern Polytechnic BS Surveying and Mapping
GA-Middle Georgia Col - Surveying Cert & AS
ID, Idaho State U Geomatics Technology BS
ID-Course Sequence Geomatics Technology College of Technology Idaho State University
ID-Lewis-Clark State College BAT Eng Tech
IL-Southern Il U Civil Engineering Surveying BS
IN - Vincennes U-Surveying AS
IN-Purdue-Geomatics Eng-BS CE-LS Minor MS PhD
KS - Pittsburg State Univ. Const Eng Tech - BSET
KS-Butler Community Coll - Engineering - Surveying
KY-N KY U-BS Construction Management - Surveying
LA-Nicholls St U Geomatics BS
LA-TH Harris Tech College AAS Civil, Surveying and Mapping
MD - Towson Geography and Environmental Planning
ME-U Maine Surveying Eng Tech
MI-Ferris State- Surveying Engineering
MI-Mich Technological Univ-Surveying Engineering‰ÛÓBS
MN-St. Cloud State University Surveying
MO Univ Science & Tech, BS CE + 12 Surveying
MO-Metro Comm Col-Longview- Land Survey AAS
MS-Hinds Comm Coll AAS DDT Survey
MS-Jones Cty Jr Coll-AAS CET
MS-Land-Surveying-Concentration
MT-Flathead Valley Comm Col- Surveying AAS
NC-Asheville-Buncombe CC GeomTech AAS
NC-Central Piedmont Comm Coll Surveying Tech AAS
NC-NCA&T-Geomatics BS
ND State College of Science, CE & Surveying Tech
NH U of-Civil Tech Surveying & Mapping AAS
NJ-Essex Co Col Const Eng Tech - Land Surveying AAS
NJ-Gloucester Co Col - CET - Land Surveying AAS
NJ-Thomas Edison State College ASAST in Surveying
NJ-Thomas Edison State College BSAST in Surveying
NJIT Engineering Technology Surveying Engineering Technology
NMSU Surveying Engineering
NV-Great Basin College BS
NY-Alfred State SUNY Surveying Eng Tech (BS)
NY-Mohawk Valley Comm Coll AAS
NY-Paul Smith's College- Surveying AAS
NY-SUNY Coll of Env. Science and Forestry - The Ranger School - AS
OH-Cincinnat St-CET-Surveying AS (BS with N KY U)
OH-Columbus St Comm Coll- Surveying AAS
OH-Univ of Akron Surveying & Mapping
Ohio St U Engineering & Geodetic Science
OK-OSU-OKC Civil-Surveying Tech AAS
OR-Or St U - GIS Certificate Program
OR-Umpqua Comm Coll-Eng Tech Surveying AS - Transfer to OIT BS CE
Oregon Institute of Technology Geomatics
Penn State Wilkes-Barre Surveying Programs AS BS
Pennsylvania College of Technology Surveying Tech AAS
PR, Univ of Puerto Rico Civil Engineering and Surveying
PR-Polytechnic U of PR-BS Land Surveying-MS Geospatial
SC-Greenville Technical Coll- Geomatics Tech
SD - SE Tech Inst - AAS LS Science Technology
TN- Middle Tenn State U-Eng Tech
TN-ETSU BS Surveying MS Eng Tech
TN-Surveying and Mapping Science Major, B.S. - East Tennessee State University
TX, Odessa Coll - Surveying AAS
TX-LSC-Montgomery Surveying AAS
TX-Texas A&M U Corpus Christi - Cert - Geomatics & GIS
TX-U of Houston-Surveying Eng Tech BS
TX-Undergraduate Majors The University of Texas of the Permian Basin
TX-UT Tyler-Surveying & Mapping AS - BS Industrial Tech
UNB - Geodesy & Geomatics Engineering
UT-Salt Lake Comm Coll-Surveying AAS
UT-Utah Valley Univ- Geomatics Program
VA - Old Dominion Dept of Eng Tech
VA-Northern VA Comm Coll - Surveying Certificate
WA-Bates Tech Coll-Land Surveying AT
WA-Renton Tech Coll-Land Survey Tech AAS
WI - Nicolet College AAS Worksheet
WV, Glenville State Coll BS Land Surveying Tech
WV-Southern WV Comm. & Tech. Coll.-Survey Technology AAS
WV-U Civil and Environmental Engineering 9 Credits of Surveying
WY-Sheridan College Surveying Tech AAS
WY-U Wyoming Land Surveying - Course Descriptions

If you cannot find the above programs, email me and I will send all the links.

Paul in PA


 
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Thanks for that list............


 
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8p35hg, post: 333631, member: 10401 wrote: I am middle aged male with years of timber surveying but not land surveying. I want to complete a degree in LPS. I have unlimited time
and can travel for school. What school would be a good choice to do BS ..I am in Florida for 5 months a year but can change plans for school.
Dont want online stuff and would like to accelerate the study. I have 2 years college from 25 years ago. I want credit for that stuff too.
Where would you go for this ????
Thanks

Since you have 'timber' experience, you might enjoy http://www.uamont.edu/pages/school-of-forest-resources/degree-programs/&apos ;">The University of Arkansas at Monticello's School of Forestry & Natural Resources. They have both a Bachelor of Science in Land Surveying an an Associate of Science in Land Surveying Technology. Contact Tom Jacobs, PS for more information. [email protected]
Phone 870-460-1694

Tell Tom that DDSM sent you...

DDSM:beer:


 
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aliquot, post: 335579, member: 2486 wrote: Is this really the case anywhere? If so where? I don't have an ABET degree and have not had any problems (4 states). Every state I have looked at allows ABET degrees or "other board approved curriculum". In my experience the ABET degree programs are very week on boundary law. This, to me, is the most important area of surveying to have formal education in.

Which schools would this be? 4 year surveying degree programs? Oregon Tech (OIT) is abet and very heavy on Boundary Law, Boundary Establishments, Case Law review etc. and Very hands on to boot.


 
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Jered McGrath PLS, post: 335677, member: 794 wrote: Which schools would this be? 4 year surveying degree programs? Oregon Tech (OIT) is abet and very heavy on Boundary Law, Boundary Establishments, Case Law review etc. and Very hands on to boot.

Yeah, I didn't see this either at Penn State. Along with several PhDs,, there was an attorney who was part of the permanent faculty, and we spent plenty of time at the courthouse, the law library and using Lexis-Nexis to research case law.

There seems to be a belief floating around (held only by a vocal minority, I hope) in the surveying community that a person can't possibly be competent at more than one thing--if you're competent with setting geodetic control, then you can't know jack about boundary law; if you're a solid construction surveyor, then you must not know anything about cadastral work. Or, my all time favorite, a survey license is only really applicable to boundary surveying.


 
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