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I'll toss in the need for ABET accreditation as well.

With that being stated, California State University Fresno was where I went and would recommend it for anybody who's interested / looking into getting a 4 year degree.

GL w/ your search.


 
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Jered McGrath PLS, post: 335677, member: 794 wrote: Which schools would this be? 4 year surveying degree programs? Oregon Tech (OIT) is abet and very heavy on Boundary Law, Boundary Establishments, Case Law review etc. and Vgery hands on to boot.

University of Alaska Anchorage has 9 credits of boundary law, New Mexico state has 9


 
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aliquot, post: 335782, member: 2486 wrote: University of Alaska Anchorage has 9 credits of boundary law, New Mexico state has 9

The other schools I looked at where the same. Compare that to the University of Wyoming with at least 20.

There is no way 9 credits is enough to prepare someone to retrace boundaries.The technical stuff is important too, but its not rocket science.

Field methods are best learned through mentorships with practicing surveyors, not academics who have not been in the field for twenty years.

Most younger surveyors are great at processing GPS data, but really need help on the legal side. I ran into one today who didnt know the difference between a point of commencement and the true point of beginning.


 
Posted : September 9, 2015 11:12 pm
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aliquot, post: 335783, member: 2486 wrote: The other schools I looked at where the same. Compare that to the University of Wyoming with at least 20.

There is no way 9 credits is enough to prepare someone to retrace boundaries.The technical stuff is important too, but its not rocket science.

Field methods are best learned through mentorships with practicing surveyors, not academics who have not been in the field for twenty years.

Most younger surveyors are great at processing GPS data, but really need help on the legal side. I ran into one today who didn't know the difference between a point of commencement and the true point of beginning.

I believe the issue you may be having with one particular program over another lies more in the interpretation of a class topic name than the program itself.
Rating and judging a program IMHO should be done by Discussions with the Professors, Discussions with former Graduates and or discussions with the campus career center to see job placement rates.
I can assure you, at least from my own experience, that boundary establishment is at the core of nearly every course that is surveying related at OIT. A curriculum map or class list may call one class Boundary Law and another Surveying computations, or Surveying 1, 2, 3, or Legal description etc but the content covers the gamut of what we deal with in the profession. An ABET program is supposed to provide a comprehensive base that prepares a graduate to get a slight head start in the industry. It is not meant to turn a graduate into a surveyor. To become a surveyor, IMHO, still requires the years of mentoring post graduation and years of industry experience. Cheers


 
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