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But this is how you compose an email at 4:30 on Friday afternoon if you want to ?ÿpiss me off

I am quitting as of today. I am leaving my phone and door key on the desk. The password for the computer is written down under the key board . There is a gun battery in the truck on the charger I forgot to bring in and the SD Card for it is in the controller.

?ÿ


 
Posted : August 13, 2018 10:37 am
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Wow, that's pretty abrupt. Guessing he won't be using you as a reference?


 
Posted : August 13, 2018 10:45 am
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Wow. Somebody didn't get the memo about burning bridges.


 
Posted : August 13, 2018 10:45 am
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Smart move giving him a company phone and not letting them use their personal phone for clients to call them on.

How old was the guy who quit? Seems like something a younger person would do, quit over an email.?ÿ


 
Posted : August 13, 2018 10:47 am
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Yikes!

Looks like you shoulda built that pool; after all...


 
Posted : August 13, 2018 10:50 am

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Doesn't sound like he cares about your general disposition...or getting your referral in the future.?ÿ I'm guessing 32ish??ÿ There's?ÿjust enough IDGAF mixed with a?ÿtad of responsibility and a dash of aloofness to make me think he's somewhere in the middle of the millennial spectrum.?ÿ


 
Posted : August 13, 2018 10:51 am
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Smart move giving him a company phone and not letting them use their personal phone for clients to call them on.

We have a pretty robust IT system that integrates your office workstation, office phone, and cell phone.

How old was the guy who quit? Seems like something a younger person would do, quit over an email.?ÿ

Late 40's.?ÿ In fairness, he was in over his head and?ÿwe both knew it, but a little notice would have been nice since 90% of my work is monitoring projects that are on a fixed schedule and are hard to rearrange


 
Posted : August 13, 2018 10:53 am
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Posted by: Cameron Watson PLS

Doesn't sound like he cares about your general disposition...or getting your referral in the future.?ÿ I'm guessing 32ish??ÿ There's?ÿjust enough IDGAF mixed with a?ÿtad of responsibility and a dash of aloofness to make me think he's somewhere in the middle of the millennial spectrum.?ÿ

I am thinking under 32 I was thinking closer to 22-26. Someone who wanted to quit at the end of day to avoid everyone, needed the last week of pay, and, didn't want to make the trip back to the truck to charger the battery.?ÿ


 
Posted : August 13, 2018 10:55 am
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Posted by: James Fleming

Late 40's.?ÿ In fairness, he was in over his head and?ÿwe both knew it, but a little notice would have been nice since 90% of my work is monitoring projects that are on a fixed schedule and are hard to rearrange

There was that topic not long ago about the pro's & con's of being solo, or at least that was a component of the topic.?ÿ For me this is one of, if not the most difficult aspects of having multiple employees...making deadline commitments to Clients that are dependent on someone you employ/manage delivering on their end.?ÿ It's not like you can call your Client and say "Joe Blow quit on me with no warning Friday afternoon, I'm not going to be able to get those daily building check shots until I find a replacement and get them up to speed."


 
Posted : August 13, 2018 11:09 am
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I can understand your frustration.?ÿ But it sounds like he pretty much covered everything.?ÿ Short and sweet, possibly you'll get the chance to return the favor someday...That doesn't make the Monday morning scramble to cover bases any easier though.

Put your hand in a bucket of water then remove your hand.?ÿ The time it takes for the hole to fill back?ÿup is about as long as any one employee should be missed.?ÿ Act accordingly. ??ÿ


 
Posted : August 13, 2018 11:32 am

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couple years ago i sent two guys out together- both older than me, both in their 50s- just for a day, as one younger guy had a PTO day and another called in stupid.

anyways, they ended up getting into a shouting match that nearly came to blows- to the point i got a phone call from the GC saying i had two guys scaring the bejesus out of everyone on site.

age ain't nothin' but a number, and we all know numbers are only a part of the equation.


 
Posted : August 13, 2018 12:26 pm
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At least he didn't go out in your airplane and do aerial tricks before drilling it into an island and making national news :). Jp


 
Posted : August 13, 2018 12:37 pm
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anyways, they ended up getting into a shouting match that nearly came to blows

I listened to this on speaker phone a decade or so in the field coordinators office:

Big Joe hit Bobby

Big Joe hit Bobby again

Put Big Joe on the phone

Joe, why'd you hit Bobby

He's an idiot

Joe, why'd you hit Bobby the second time

He got up

?ÿ


 
Posted : August 13, 2018 12:38 pm
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If he was in over his head and he knew it, and you did too...well it's to be expected I guess. We all have breaking points.


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Posted : August 13, 2018 12:42 pm
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About the same thing happened to me last week. Sent out a crew, TS man got a personal call while on the job which turned out to be a job offer. Never saw him again. He had the crew chief drop him off in town and had his crew chief tell?ÿthat me he quit. Around here it's the pipeline and oil/gas company's that can get my guys. They put a bonus and per diem on the front end to get them to work. The per diem sounds good until they have to stay away two weeks at a time and pay for their own hotel and food. He took a pay cut but told the crew chief the per diem made it worth it. These young guys don't think about when the pipeline is done, they are going to need a job somewhere.


 
Posted : August 13, 2018 12:43 pm

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So, what makes it okay when employers do it?

It became obvious to me on one occasion to me that I had been hired by a company to temporarily help out for a situation that they had no way to solve. They put together a crew and equipment for me only to let us all go when they thought the "second string" would be able to take over.

In the exit interview I told them they never would have been able to attempt the project without me. Also the fact they were hiring me when all they expected was a temporary assignment was a lie.

It makes me question my respect for employers and any obligations I may have for them. I don't work without a contract.


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Posted : August 13, 2018 1:06 pm
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I am quitting as of today. I am leaving my phone and door key on the desk. The password for the computer is written down under the key board . There is a gun battery in the truck on the charger I forgot to bring in and the SD Card for it is in the controller.

?ÿ

I'm giving this guy a little credit for sending you an email and leaving his stuff in some semblance of order. I've had too many guys just not bother to show up and make you chase them down for keys, etc.?ÿ

One fellow, just last year, turned out to be having a mental health crisis. He had been a good man up to that point. He had come to PDX because he had been out of work in his home state for over a year. But his wife didn't want to follow him and - there was a lot of angst.?ÿ I just assumed that he had headed back "home" until his wife called me up a week later asking questions. She was in town looking for him. Turned out he had been missing, had been living the homeless life on the street for that last week.?ÿ She found him, got him help, and he's back on course now. He needed some months to recover.?ÿ I felt pretty bad about it. Apparently it was a combination of mental stress, poor nutrition, and an untreated blow to the head he had taken when he slipped on ice the previous winter.?ÿ

If the guy didn't show up because he had a heart attack you would take him back when he recovered.?ÿ Mental health is legitimate. You might give this guy a call.?ÿ Maybe he had a panic reaction that he regrets.?ÿ?ÿ

He could also be an irresponsible screwup.?ÿ?ÿ


 
Posted : August 13, 2018 1:09 pm
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Layoffs are usually given with no notice.


 
Posted : August 13, 2018 1:50 pm
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Posted by: JPH

Layoffs are usually given with no notice.

Not by me.


 
Posted : August 13, 2018 1:59 pm
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I did it to an employer once. I kept telling them that nothing they said that got me to take the job was happening. So I just up and quit and never looked back. I don't regret doing it. I trained a guy to do my job before I left. I knew a few weeks before I quit that if things didn't go like I was told within a few more weeks I was leaving. And I did. I gave them 8 months to at least try to do some of the things they told me they were going to do.

Some employers do not give notice when they layoff people. It might even be fair to say most don't. Though employees catch wind of it days or weeks before it happens and it is pretty obvious because their work is drying up in many cases which causes the layoff's. Plus they do have a small cushion of unemployment to fall back on. It's not a lot, but something.


 
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