We've all seen it.

> Isn't there a simpler way to mark points? Maybe every PK nail in a box could be numbered consecutively? 1 through 100.

They'd need to be collated..... maybe you should look into it.

You could use numbered aluminum tree tags...

http://www.benmeadows.com/round-aluminum-tags_36814317/

Or get some aluminum washers and stamp the number on there yourself with a die set.

Another alternative is keel or spray chalk.

Now how would the reader know which one to read in a pincushion?? :-S 😛

I had a thread a few days ago about marking oil wells and I found the alternative to writing on the lath. I decided to go with write on aluminum tags.
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They came pre-wired and I couldn't be happier. I just ordered some pre-printed with our company contact info on one side and on the reverse side the control point position info.

A good sketch

Bunch of green kids on the job.

> A good sketch :good:

That's what Field Books are for !

[sarcasm]What is a field book? Is that another program in the thingy I push buttons on?[/sarcasm]

> [sarcasm]What is a field book? Is that another program in the thingy I push buttons on?[/sarcasm]

[sarcasm]I think that's a file type. FBK or something. I'm not sure what it's for.[/sarcasm]

It's crazy to me how many people don't use field books. I'm a young surveyor, but I had it drilled into me on the first day on the job that if you don't write it in the field book, you didn't do it; and if you didn't do it, you don't get paid.

We use white latex paint and make a nice little circle around the PK/MAG.
When the nail rusts, it looks like bird poop.
I can still find markings from 1996.
I also try to fill in around the head to keep water from getting underneath.

Get a tube of acrylic paint. Paint something pretty. Wash out the tube and fill it with latex.

Cheap paint brushes help. A bunch of pine needles will do almost as well.

[sarcasm]"if you don't write it in the field book, you didn't do it; and if you didn't do it, you don't get paid"[/sarcasm]

that is near direct quote from my playbook :good:

> Painting around points seems to go to extremes. Today I noticed a survey traverse with every TP painted up. Whether it was on asphalt, concrete or brick; horizontal or vertical surface. I don't believe this crew understands "discrete".
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> I have had crews take wire brushes to this type of marking when they go crazy with paint.
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> Isn't there a simpler way to mark points? Maybe every PK nail in a box could be numbered consecutively? 1 through 100.

Give the kids water-based paint...

How well do our crews understand GPS and metal detectors if they need that much paint?

My Field Book is 100% electronic 95% of the time.
Only on long Rural jobs do I rely on outdated paper field books. Improved battery technology will hopefully remove the need of paper for that 5%.