There is a county here that requires a minor subdivision plat when there is no land being subdivided. They are requiring the plat in order to get the health department to sign the plat giving approval for a septic tank.
Does this sound reasonable?
Sounds crazy. We have done them here for a condo unit, but never for something like a septic.
No - it's not a subdivision if there are not new parcels being created.
Years ago the county required the location of perc tests to be shown on a drawing.
Some jurisdictions in Oregon are requiring 1 lot partition plats to consolidate legal lots. It all has to do with the national building codes and building over vacated property lines.
A Harris, post: 420059, member: 81 wrote: Years ago the county required the location of perc tests to be shown on a drawing.
They sometimes require that here, but only ask for it to be shown on a site plan, not on anything that gets recorded.
I've worked in several municipalities that require your land to be 'platted' prior to a building permit being issued.
WA-ID Surveyor, post: 420069, member: 6294 wrote: I've worked in several municipalities that require your land to be 'platted' prior to a building permit being issued.
Around here too. One of their stated reasons is to avoid "metes and bounds" types of descriptions.
But if I want to combine two platted lots into a "Lot Line Adjustment", I cannot just call it "Lots 1 and 2 of Block 5"....the City requires a metes and bounds description of the combined properties. This BTW drives the title examiners nuts...
We had one that was the remaining land of several subdivisions. The owner couldn't get insurance because there was no recorded description of only that piece. The county won't record a survey so we had to do a subdivision just to give it a lot number. Made no sense to me then and makes no sense to me now. So in addition to the cost of the septic, they are faced with the cost of a subdivision as well? Doesn't sound reasonable to me.
paden cash, post: 420073, member: 20 wrote: Around here too. One of their stated reasons is to avoid "metes and bounds" types of descriptions.
But if I want to combine two platted lots into a "Lot Line Adjustment", I cannot just call it "Lots 1 and 2 of Block 5"....the City requires a metes and bounds description of the combined properties. This BTW drives the title examiners nuts...
The county requires it here also when combining subdivision lots into a new replat, in other words a description in the dedication that has B&Ds. They don't care if it's really a "metes and bounds", the description can't go anywhere, the title will still reference Lot 1 of the XYZ Subdivision, the description is just for show.........:(
paden cash, post: 420073, member: 20 wrote: Around here too. One of their stated reasons is to avoid "metes and bounds" types of descriptions.
I saw them in OK (City of Norman specifically). It is a way to get a boundary survey recorded in a state without a recording requirement.
PA PLS, post: 420078, member: 9658 wrote: We had one that was the remaining land of several subdivisions. The owner couldn't get insurance because there was no recorded description of only that piece. The county won't record a survey so we had to do a subdivision just to give it a lot number. Made no sense to me then and makes no sense to me now. So in addition to the cost of the septic, they are faced with the cost of a subdivision as well? Doesn't sound reasonable to me.
It's all so it can get placed on the GIS map...and we all know nothing exists unless it's upon the GIS...:(
paden cash, post: 420092, member: 20 wrote: It's all so it can get placed on the GIS map...and we all know nothing exists unless it's upon the GIS...:(
If it's in the computer it can't be wrong!
One of the local counties redefined the word division on their code development. The regulations are for all Divisions of Land as per State statue requiring Counties and Municipalities to regulate land development. then the code definition begins to define Divisions with wording like "A division of land that results in any change of boundaries between existing lots" I believe that's called a lot line adjustment or even a consolidation, but not a division of land.
My county does them, one lot minor subdivisions. Sometimes one lot cut out of a larger parcel and sometimes just to make a parcel buildable. You can cut up your land and record new parcels here without subdividing, they can't stop you from recording. The catch is the new parcel can't get building permits because it was done outside the subdivision regulations (non conforming parcel). So that's where they come up with the one lot subdivision. Get the plat done, show you have the required utilities, frontage and lot size, pay the fees and you have it. I actually I think its kind of dumb and I'm on the planning commission, but it's what they do.
