We all have those wacky clients. I guess there should be some credit for effort. What have you heard from clients that made you shake your head in disbelief?
ÛÏI took a surveying course in college in 1962. If I help out the crew, will it save me some money?Û
I do query owners to see if they have vakuable testimony on corners. Other than that my standard reply is, "I can do the project for x dollars. Your help will increase the price between y and z dollars."
Its like hooking up the trailer. I can do it in ten minutes by myself or an hour with help..
Nick Jewett, post: 420039, member: 12357 wrote: ÛÏI took a surveying course in college in 1962. If I help out the crew, will it save me some money?Û
If I so much as see you on the property while I'm there I'm going to charge you double. How about that?
Hey, training is extra!
thebionicman, post: 420041, member: 8136 wrote: Its like hooking up the trailer. I can do it in ten minutes by myself or an hour with help..
Logic n. The art of thinking and reasoning in strict accordance with the limitations and incapacities of the human misunderstanding. The basic of logic is the syllogism, consisting of a major and a minor premise and a conclusion ÛÓ thus:
[INDENT]Major Premise: Sixty men can do a piece of work sixty times as quickly as one man.[/INDENT]
[INDENT]Minor Premise: One man can dig a posthole in sixty seconds; therefore ÛÓ[/INDENT]
[INDENT]Conclusion: Sixty men can dig a posthole in one second.[/INDENT]
This may be called the syllogism arithmetical, in which, by combining logic and mathematics, we obtain a double certainty and are twice blessed.
(From Ambrose Bierce's Devil's Dictionary)
"I know that corner is right (landowner pointing to a pipe sticking up about .8'), because I set it myself".
I cringe when the property owners want to follow me around.
Never fails, if they follow and the survey goes quickly, they say I'm charging too much for so little work.
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Don't laugh, I met a guy in southern Colorado, very rugged terrain, who walked me around showing me the corners he found with his phone, of an irregular, 35 acre tract set in 1980. He showed me where his phone said the one "missing" corner should be, and my schonstedt found the original pin about 2 inches under his feet. When they want to help, I give them the big bag with claw hammer, sledge, shovel, rebars, lath, schonstedt, spikes and axe.
or the old stand by: "Hello, I'm the neighbor. We laid out this string line with the Sheriff present, so we know its right". Me: The gentleman who owns this property hired me to set stakes along the common property line, from pin to pin - because there are so many trees between the pins. I can see right off that the string is way inside this line, probably because you can not see the other corner due to the trees". Neighbor: Jerk!
Not so much about corners themselves but recent traverse points have been my pain recently. First, I left a hub and tack in the ground with ribbon, (ribbon was the first mistake) only to come back a couple days later to find it no longer there because, "I thought you were done and I had my landscapers take it away." Second was just yesterday. We were working on a final and I set a nail in the back and set another on line to work from, and when my i-man moved to the back I hear, "Our nail is no good!" only to find that it had been raked up by the landscapers cleaning up the dirt for the sod........... Other than that, I hear, "I know it is my fence because I put it up!" Another one is, "that is their corner, not mine."
On another more recent survey, a landowner of 10 acres was selling half to someone else, but had previously had another survey company put iron rod and caps down the common line ever 200' or so. The line was about 1300' long with a little trail running down one side of it. There were cattle on the lot, and the lot was wooded so we asked the owner to pen them up while we did our work. We found all of the corners plus or minus where they should be and called it a good day. We had traversed up the road along the common line, but had no clue about the points on the line. Directly after putting the gun away, the current landowner comes down the trail and tells us, "You guys are 3' off." He was referring to our small nail and ribbon that was our traverse point. He found all of them on his way to us and figured we didn't have a clue what we were doing. A short conversation ensued and all was well. I guess it is good to have a landowner that knows his or her boundaries, but dang, let a guy do his work.... and let everyone know about your under ground iron rod fence....
I just need to know position of 2 corners. No need to locate the other corners. Will make job go faster & cheaper?