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The cursed bridge at Malfunction Junction

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About a decade ago our DOT built a large series of highway overpasses near here in very swampy ground. Their solution was to bring in the fill for the on/off ramps and abutments, which had to be high enough to clear a railway and they let those sit for a couple of years until they finally stopped settling. How far they would settle and how long it would take was impossible to say, but eventually it stabilized.

 
Posted : September 28, 2017 3:02 pm
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Do they do test piling there?

 
Posted : September 28, 2017 5:38 pm
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ODOT does to pile testing on some projects. I worked pile testing at the now canceled Columbia River Crossing to replace the 100 year old I-5 Bridge over the Columbia River. One of the piles was 12' dia drilled 230 feet. At 200 feet they hit a massive boulder and had to pull out and re-drill. We monitored a 2' pile with our real-time monitoring system. Kind of cool when if failed. Made a big bang and sunk about 2 feet.

The project was canceled when our neighbors to the north decided not to help pay for the 2.5 B project because they did not want mass transit. Now they just spend a couple of hours in their cars to make the 14 mile round trip.

 
Posted : October 2, 2017 3:33 pm
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John Putnam, post: 449203, member: 1188 wrote: Now they just spend a couple of hours in their cars to make the 14 mile round trip.

Take it from me, if you leave for work before 6:30am and stay until after 6:30pm the traffic is no big deal.

 
Posted : October 2, 2017 3:55 pm
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When did you move north?

 
Posted : October 2, 2017 5:47 pm
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John Putnam, post: 449220, member: 1188 wrote: When did you move north?

I still live in Beaverton but have been working out of an office in East Vancouver for the last 18 months.

 
Posted : October 2, 2017 6:05 pm
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Mark Mayer, post: 448598, member: 424 wrote: ODOT has got to be still stinging from the Pioneer Mountain project. Soil/slope stability problems there resulted in the the project going triple original budget and several years past due. Several unstable bridge bents had to be blown up.

That new 5 mile section of Highway 20 finally opened this summer. Wow, 10 miles of twisty curvy road shortened to 5 is nice despite some steep grades. Construction on a short section on the west end was still going on mid-August when I went to Newport but should be completed shortly, if not already.

 
Posted : October 2, 2017 7:58 pm
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The big question on Hwy 20 is who is going to pay for it. Seems to me the design-build team should have been on the hook but I bet the State ends up fronting the bill to redesign and replace. Design-build should be outlawed on public projects.

PS does the route by-pass Eddyville?

 
Posted : October 3, 2017 6:35 am
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My sister calls the three way intersection of King Street, Quaker Lane, and Braddock Road in Alexandria, VA "malfunction junction."

@38.8270737,-77.0879624,321m/data=!3m1!1e3"> https://www.google.com/maps/ @38.8270737,-77.0879624,321m/data=!3m1!1e3

 
Posted : October 3, 2017 7:34 am
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Dave Karoly, post: 449292, member: 94 wrote: My sister calls the three way intersection of King Street, Quaker Lane, and Braddock Road in Alexandria, VA "malfunction junction."

@38.8270737,-77.0879624,321m/data=!3m1!1e3"> https://www.google.com/maps/ @38.8270737,-77.0879624,321m/data=!3m1!1e3

Welcome home, friend.

 
Posted : October 3, 2017 7:35 am
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John Putnam, post: 449274, member: 1188 wrote: Design-build should be outlawed on public projects.

The thing went design-build because certain pols were pushing for it, and people inside ODOT foresaw problems didn't want to touch it. Design-build was the answer. Or so it seemed in 2003.

John Putnam, post: 449274, member: 1188 wrote: PS does the route by-pass Eddyville?

The route begins at Eddyville.

 
Posted : October 4, 2017 11:58 am
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http://www.bendbulletin.com/localstate/5624728-151/odot-highway-97-overpass-in-la-pine-scrapped

And now this. Our trusted professionals fail us again. Jp

 
Posted : October 22, 2017 8:05 am
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Jp7191, post: 452020, member: 1617 wrote: http://www.bendbulletin.com/localstate/5624728-151/odot-highway-97-overpass-in-la-pine-scrapped

And now this. Our trusted professionals fail us again. Jp

Whoops I met to attach http://medfordmailtribune.or.newsmemory.com/publink.php?shareid=46b24f1e1

 
Posted : October 22, 2017 3:12 pm
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Jp7191, post: 452053, member: 1617 wrote: Whoops I met to attach http://medfordmailtribune.or.newsmemory.com/publink.php?shareid=46b24f1e1

That's a good plan...spend the remaining 3 mil to come up with a study that says "you should have done it different". 😉

 
Posted : October 22, 2017 3:51 pm
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