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The cursed bridge at Malfunction Junction

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Williwaw
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About a decade ago our DOT built a large series of highway overpasses near here in very swampy ground. Their solution was to bring in the fill for the on/off ramps and abutments, which had to be high enough to clear a railway and they let those sit for a couple of years until they finally stopped settling. How far they would settle and how long it would take was impossible to say, but eventually it stabilized.


Just because I'm paranoid, doesn't mean they aren't out to get me.

 
Posted : September 28, 2017 5:02 pm
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Do they do test piling there?


 
Posted : September 28, 2017 7:38 pm
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ODOT does to pile testing on some projects. I worked pile testing at the now canceled Columbia River Crossing to replace the 100 year old I-5 Bridge over the Columbia River. One of the piles was 12' dia drilled 230 feet. At 200 feet they hit a massive boulder and had to pull out and re-drill. We monitored a 2' pile with our real-time monitoring system. Kind of cool when if failed. Made a big bang and sunk about 2 feet.

The project was canceled when our neighbors to the north decided not to help pay for the 2.5 B project because they did not want mass transit. Now they just spend a couple of hours in their cars to make the 14 mile round trip.


 
Posted : October 2, 2017 5:33 pm
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John Putnam, post: 449203, member: 1188 wrote: Now they just spend a couple of hours in their cars to make the 14 mile round trip.

Take it from me, if you leave for work before 6:30am and stay until after 6:30pm the traffic is no big deal.


 
Posted : October 2, 2017 5:55 pm
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When did you move north?


 
Posted : October 2, 2017 7:47 pm

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John Putnam, post: 449220, member: 1188 wrote: When did you move north?

I still live in Beaverton but have been working out of an office in East Vancouver for the last 18 months.


 
Posted : October 2, 2017 8:05 pm
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Mark Mayer, post: 448598, member: 424 wrote: ODOT has got to be still stinging from the http://portlandtribune.com/pt/9-news/324868-203835-odots-bumpy-road-to-cost-management-&apos ;">Pioneer Mountain project. Soil/slope stability problems there resulted in the the project going triple original budget and several years past due. Several unstable bridge bents had to be blown up.

That new 5 mile section of Highway 20 finally opened this summer. Wow, 10 miles of twisty curvy road shortened to 5 is nice despite some steep grades. Construction on a short section on the west end was still going on mid-August when I went to Newport but should be completed shortly, if not already.


 
Posted : October 2, 2017 9:58 pm
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The big question on Hwy 20 is who is going to pay for it. Seems to me the design-build team should have been on the hook but I bet the State ends up fronting the bill to redesign and replace. Design-build should be outlawed on public projects.

PS does the route by-pass Eddyville?


 
Posted : October 3, 2017 8:35 am
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My sister calls the three way intersection of King Street, Quaker Lane, and Braddock Road in Alexandria, VA "malfunction junction."

@38.8270737,-77.0879624,321m/data=!3m1!1e3"> https://www.google.com/maps/ @38.8270737,-77.0879624,321m/data=!3m1!1e3


 
Posted : October 3, 2017 9:34 am
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Dave Karoly, post: 449292, member: 94 wrote: My sister calls the three way intersection of King Street, Quaker Lane, and Braddock Road in Alexandria, VA "malfunction junction."

@38.8270737,-77.0879624,321m/data=!3m1!1e3"> https://www.google.com/maps/ @38.8270737,-77.0879624,321m/data=!3m1!1e3

Welcome home, friend.


 
Posted : October 3, 2017 9:35 am

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John Putnam, post: 449274, member: 1188 wrote: Design-build should be outlawed on public projects.

The thing went design-build because certain pols were pushing for it, and people inside ODOT foresaw problems didn't want to touch it. Design-build was the answer. Or so it seemed in 2003.

John Putnam, post: 449274, member: 1188 wrote: PS does the route by-pass Eddyville?

The route begins at Eddyville.


 
Posted : October 4, 2017 1:58 pm
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http://www.bendbulletin.com/localstate/5624728-151/odot-highway-97-overpass-in-la-pine-scrapped

And now this. Our trusted professionals fail us again. Jp


 
Posted : October 22, 2017 10:05 am
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Jp7191, post: 452020, member: 1617 wrote: http://www.bendbulletin.com/localstate/5624728-151/odot-highway-97-overpass-in-la-pine-scrapped

And now this. Our trusted professionals fail us again. Jp

Whoops I met to attach http://medfordmailtribune.or.newsmemory.com/publink.php?shareid=46b24f1e1


 
Posted : October 22, 2017 5:12 pm
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Jp7191, post: 452053, member: 1617 wrote: Whoops I met to attach http://medfordmailtribune.or.newsmemory.com/publink.php?shareid=46b24f1e1

That's a good plan...spend the remaining 3 mil to come up with a study that says "you should have done it different". 😉


 
Posted : October 22, 2017 5:51 pm
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