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Sometimes you are better than yourself. Yes, the four orange caps are the same surveyor.


 
Posted : June 15, 2018 1:54 pm
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Posted by: vern

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Sometimes you are better than yourself. Yes, the four orange caps are the same surveyor.

"... I can't wait to look in the mirror, 'cause I get better lookin' each day ... to know me is to love me, I must be one hell of a man ... oh, Lord, it's hard to be humble, but I'm doing the best that I can ..." - Mac Davis


 
Posted : June 15, 2018 2:50 pm
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LMAO!!!!!?ÿ That's awesome.?ÿ I had one of those not too long ago and I've been waiting for the right moment to share it.

The two YPC's down there have the same number on them.?ÿ


 
Posted : June 15, 2018 2:52 pm
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Wait just a cotton pickin minute...ƒ??ƒ??ƒ??ƒ??.these guys couldn't even agree with there own work to the point that they had to set multiple irons with their own caps??ÿ

Reminds me of one of those old Looney Tunes cartoons where some little cartoon critter cat is all despondent and ashamed of his inept daddy cat (Sylvester) because he can't catch a mouse.

Oh the shame of it.


 
Posted : June 15, 2018 3:20 pm
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With such outstanding service to the public cadastre, it's a mystery why our profession isn't more respected. ??ÿ


 
Posted : June 15, 2018 3:35 pm

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Magnetic locators are expensive, you know.?


 
Posted : June 15, 2018 4:52 pm
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Surely a case of the LS never being onsite and merely sending out untrained laborers to set bars where the software says they should go. ?ÿProfits, profits, profits.


 
Posted : June 15, 2018 6:51 pm
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Ive seen those where the plat called for them. I'm not sure which is worse...


 
Posted : June 15, 2018 7:07 pm
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Didn't you notice the PI point in that line ?? ?ÿ ??ÿ


 
Posted : June 16, 2018 4:00 pm
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I am trying to avoid this very thing...

We're doing a couple of boundary and topo surveys here in Austin. I've requested the field crew to revisit the site to search for some additional corners. When I tell the PM this, he says, "is the (RPLS) requesting all these corners?". I say, "No...I am. We can't say it's not there if we haven't looked." That shut him up pretty quick.

I'm not registered but I'm trying to do the best I can.


T. Nelson - SAM

 
Posted : June 18, 2018 7:20 am

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"Should of put yours in the middle and split the difference!"?ÿ?ÿI feel like the others and a field hand returned to the site and set those pins and ignored the others.?ÿ ?ÿHappened to us with one of our ex-employees.?ÿ ?ÿHad to fix his laziness.?ÿ ?ÿ Probably our fault for not being specific enough in our training (which you think would of stuck after the first time and didn't have to be repeated everyday you sent them out).


 
Posted : June 18, 2018 8:15 am
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Same surveyor. I guess he adjusted his elevations.

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Posted : June 20, 2018 4:58 am
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Same surveyor. I guess he adjusted his elevations.

Get back out there and restake those corners....and use the right geoid model this time.?ÿ


 
Posted : June 20, 2018 6:26 am
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It's a very elegant pincushion though when you consider the amount of time it took to carve out the side of the first cap so cleanly to allow the 2nd bar to fit flush against the first.?ÿ More of a carpenter's skill though...


 
Posted : June 20, 2018 6:59 am
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Posted by: vern

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Sometimes you are better than yourself. Yes, the four orange caps are the same surveyor.

Vern,

What was this surveyor's response when you contacted him?


 
Posted : June 20, 2018 7:19 am

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Ive seen those where the plat called for them. I'm not sure which is worse...

Sometimes you don't have a choice when it comes to setting corners when it comes to plats.?ÿ The statutes in the states where I'm licensed state that you need to set monuments at all angle points and corners.?ÿ I have had several cases over the years where setting two pins within a couple of feet was unavoidable.?ÿ The prime example being where lot lines intersect a R/W near a PC or PT.?ÿ At least in recording states you can see why multiple points were set.


 
Posted : June 20, 2018 7:28 am
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A few feet along the r-o-w is one thing, my issue is rear lot lines where the pins are offset a few tenths or a foot. Ive even seen a few offset 2 or 3 hundredths.

It doesn't take much to adjust a few things and make the corners councident. It's also fairly easy to make lines tangent or radial, but it's rare to see folks make the effort any more...


 
Posted : June 20, 2018 7:50 am
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The picture with the cap cut out cracks me up. Ran into the same situation (had a picture of it that I can't find anymore) back when I first got into surveying. In my case it was two different surveyors. The idea that you are going to call another surveyors corner out of position by that tiny amount blew my mind back then. Still does.


 
Posted : June 20, 2018 8:23 am
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In cases where I or we when working as a team found pin cushions, we took photos, shot the other pins for reference, and left a lath as just a marker for us to follow up with next visit. Assuming your pin will be even better, without researching the field observations against whats in the filed surveys and plats can cost a lot more than ego.?ÿ O&E insurance gets tired of paying for those types of mistakes quickly.?ÿ


 
Posted : June 20, 2018 8:29 am
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Posted by: thebionicman

A few feet along the r-o-w is one thing, my issue is rear lot lines where the pins are offset a few tenths or a foot. Ive even seen a few offset 2 or 3 hundredths.

It doesn't take much to adjust a few things and make the corners councident. It's also fairly easy to make lines tangent or radial, but it's rare to see folks make the effort any more...

That is a pet peeve of mine, you need to think about what's best for the owner of the lot. Even here where it's required to stencil the lot #'s on the cap it will lead to confusion when you have two caps a foot or two apart, usually it's only a matter of better design when drafting the plat. And a PC or PT near a lot corner can cause all kinds of confusion, having a new shiny fence lined up to one three feet from the actual corner,,,,,,seen that one.

I try to bury those PC, PT corners, or not set them even though it's a requirement.


 
Posted : June 20, 2018 8:37 am

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