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The processor is fried, and some incompatibility between the new style processors and the old style board means we have to replace the main board as well, to the tune of $4,500 or so. To add insult to injury, apparently the R8-2 has reached the end of its support life, meaning replacement parts are no longer being manufactured, so should any other problems pop up in the future, we're kinda effed.

Our Trimble dealer is trying to convince us to trade up to an R10, which is sounding like a reasonable move considering they'd still give us full trade-in value for the broken R8. However, that's still four times the cost of the repair, and no small chunk of change.

What do you folks think? I've read plenty of opinions on R10's over the last year or two since they released, so quality is not a concern for me. I'd primarily be the only one using it, so the added functionality makes me a little giddy, but then again I don't pay the bills.


 
Posted : October 25, 2016 3:46 pm
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Will they give you trade in on a R8-4? That would be my choice.


 
Posted : October 25, 2016 4:16 pm
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PoorPDOP, post: 396850, member: 8412 wrote: What do you folks think? I've read plenty of opinions on R10's over the last year or two since they released, so quality is not a concern for me. I'd primarily be the only one using it, so the added functionality makes me a little giddy, but then again I don't pay the bills.

Make sure your data collectors will support the R10 - or you will paying Trimble even more $$$$.


 
Posted : October 25, 2016 5:44 pm
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I have some ideas. But I won't say anything.
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Posted : October 25, 2016 6:16 pm
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Nate The Surveyor, post: 396861, member: 291 wrote: I have some ideas. But I won't say anything.
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I will - Javad-LS 1/3 the cost of a R10 Rover or half the price for B/R set-up.


N10,000, E7,000, Z100.00
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Posted : October 26, 2016 4:24 am

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PoorPDOP, post: 396850, member: 8412 wrote: The processor is fried, and some incompatibility between the new style processors and the old style board means we have to replace the main board as well, to the tune of $4,500 or so. To add insult to injury, apparently the R8-2 has reached the end of its support life, meaning replacement parts are no longer being manufactured, so should any other problems pop up in the future, we're kinda effed.

Our Trimble dealer is trying to convince us to trade up to an R10, which is sounding like a reasonable move considering they'd still give us full trade-in value for the broken R8. However, that's still four times the cost of the repair, and no small chunk of change.

What do you folks think? I've read plenty of opinions on R10's over the last year or two since they released, so quality is not a concern for me. I'd primarily be the only one using it, so the added functionality makes me a little giddy, but then again I don't pay the bills.

After losing an R8-2 in the river recently I purchased a used r8-2 for about $4200 from the local dealer. Excellent condition. They are also on ebay, but I prefer to buy from the dealer. I previously rebuilt an R8 (not the one that was lost). I think it cost me something like $7000 for all new boards, keypad, labor, etc. Next time I think I would probably buy a used one rather than rebuild, although the rebuild does make it "like new".


 
Posted : October 26, 2016 5:48 am
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Nate The Surveyor, post: 396861, member: 291 wrote: I have some ideas. But I won't say anything.
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Heh, don't think I'd stand much of a chance in that proposal. The boss man was something like the fifth person in the state to buy a commercial GPS unit from Trimble when they were released in the 80's. He's personal friends & went to school with the prez of the local Trimble supply depot, as well... sooo, yeah, not much of a chance there.


 
Posted : October 26, 2016 7:21 am
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Mark Mayer, post: 396854, member: 424 wrote: Will they give you trade in on a R8-4? That would be my choice.

I'm not sure. I think it's a promotional thing they've got going on with the R10 right now, so it may be specific to that, but it's worth an inquiry. Thanks for the suggestion!


 
Posted : October 26, 2016 7:22 am
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jim.cox, post: 396856, member: 93 wrote: Make sure your data collectors will support the R10 - or you will paying Trimble even more $$$$.

It will, we've got a TSC3 we use to run robotics. The old TSC2 is sh** out of luck, though.


 
Posted : October 26, 2016 7:23 am
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PoorPDOP, post: 396944, member: 8412 wrote: It will, we've got a TSC3 we use to run robotics. The old TSC2 is sh** out of luck, though.

TSC3 with what software? I've been told the R-10 won't work with Survey Pro.


 
Posted : October 26, 2016 7:33 am

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If you're running Trimble Access you just need a version new enough to know what an R10 is... obviously you can't use software with the R10 that predates it. I would think the same would be true of Survey Pro, I can't imagine why there would be any reason that it doesn't support the R10.

I haven't used an R8S, but the R10 is a superior instrument to the R8. If you know that your boss is a committed Trimble user then to me an R10 is a no-brainer. I know they're pricey, but it's not like you're buying it to admire on a shelf... the ROI should be pretty short.


 
Posted : October 26, 2016 8:13 am
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bobwesterman, post: 396948, member: 7106 wrote: TSC3 with what software? I've been told the R-10 won't work with Survey Pro.

It's running Access. Mostly functional, often infuriating Access...


 
Posted : October 26, 2016 11:54 am
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I had to purchase a YUMA (or I could have gotten a TSC3) with ACCESS when I bought my R10 because our older TSC2's do not recognize the R10, and apparently Trimble stopped Survey Controller at 12.50 (at least for the TSC2).


 
Posted : October 26, 2016 12:31 pm
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John Hamilton, post: 396997, member: 640 wrote: I had to purchase a YUMA (or I could have gotten a TSC3) with ACCESS when I bought my R10 because our older TSC2's do not recognize the R10, and apparently Trimble stopped Survey Controller at 12.50 (at least for the TSC2).

You would have to upgrade Survey Controller to Access; there is no version of Survey Controller that will recognize an R10. It has nothing to do with being a TSC2, I still have several TSC2's in service.


 
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PoorPDOP, post: 396993, member: 8412 wrote: It's running Access. Mostly functional, often infuriating Access...

The current release is 2016.03. I have no idea what the first version to support the R10 is.


 
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Lee D, post: 397007, member: 7971 wrote: The current release is 2016.03. I have no idea what the first version to support the R10 is.

Sorry for the hijack....
Lee, On a side note. Do you happen to know if 'GPS Configurator' will work with the R10? The version I'm using will only allow me access to our R8s that we've now reconfigured as bases to RTK w/ the R10s we recently acquired. Need to configure the R10 to log internally on power up for quick and dirty static when the need arises.


Just because I'm paranoid, doesn't mean they aren't out to get me.

 
Posted : October 26, 2016 1:58 pm
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Williwaw, post: 397008, member: 7066 wrote: Sorry for the hijack....
Lee, On a side note. Do you happen to know if 'GPS Configurator' will work with the R10? The version I'm using will only allow me access to our R8s that we've now reconfigured as bases to RTK w/ the R10s we recently acquired. Need to configure the R10 to log internally on power up for quick and dirty static when the need arises.

The version I'm running doesn't show the R10 either, and I've never tried it. Have you ever connected to the R10's WebUI? I would think you could do it through there, but I don't have one available to test at the moment. You can connect with it using the WiFi on your phone, tablet, or laptop - the screen is pretty tiny if you use a phone.

The IP address is 192.168.142.1, the user name is admin, and the password is password. The more I think about it the more I'm sure you can do it through there; you can program it to do just about anything.


 
Posted : October 26, 2016 2:23 pm
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Lee D, post: 397011, member: 7971 wrote: The version I'm running doesn't show the R10 either, and I've never tried it. Have you ever connected to the R10's WebUI? I would think you could do it through there, but I don't have one available to test at the moment. You can connect with it using the WiFi on your phone, tablet, or laptop - the screen is pretty tiny if you use a phone.

The IP address is 192.168.142.1, the user name is admin, and the password is password. The more I think about it the more I'm sure you can do it through there; you can program it to do just about anything.

Thanks Lee. You da man! I'll give that a shot.


Just because I'm paranoid, doesn't mean they aren't out to get me.

 
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If you have a choice,,,,then it's the R10.


 
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Williwaw, post: 397022, member: 7066 wrote: Thanks Lee. You da man! I'll give that a shot.

You might also try the Trimble DL app on android for static stuff.

James


 
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