Push to letter

Not in Tucson. You sure you aren't dealing with a clerk blindly following a rule.

Not the same but similar.?ÿ I argued with the lady who ordered all our office supplies because she wouldn't order legal size file folders.?ÿ Her reasoning was that all the letters, proposals, statements, etc. were all on letter sized paper.?ÿ I said true, but letter sized paper can fit in a legal folder while a legal sized document (deeds, plats, etc.) will not fit in a letter sized folder without folding.

I did get a few legal sized folders.?ÿ Of course ALL our filing cabinets were sized for legal size.

Andy

@bruce-small?ÿ

The clerk doesn't care it's the private lawyers and title people here.?ÿ

@bruce-small?ÿ

The clerk doesn't care it's the private lawyers and title people here.?ÿ

I have not noticed any push for letter size, in fact, I often produce Ledger size.?ÿ?ÿ

I asked one of our corporate lawyers back in the day why they used legal-sized paper. He said that they could get more words on each page, cutting down on the number of sheets required for one task. At the old typewriter standard of 6 lines per inch, standard paper would hold 66 lines and legal would hold 84, roughly 20% more.

For many reasons such as less than page-full sheets, there won't be a 20% reduction in total pages filed, but the concept is sound.

Maybe in the scanned world it doesn't matter, but, in the old days, it did. However lack of knowledge about fundamental reasons for a long-standing practice may also affect the clerical world.

Any sized document ends up coming to me in a title report as an 8-1/2"x11". Perhaps that is why?

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And they could help a lot if we could reduce margins to 1/2". The 1" is a holdover from an earlier age.

@dmyhill?ÿ

I think you're on to part of it, everything keeps getting sent to me scanned that way, it's really annoying.?ÿ

I never saw a sheet of 8 1/2 x 14 in any PNW office I worked in before I went to Oklahoma.?ÿ There it was a regular thing and I got used to it. Since I've been back in Oregon/Washington I've made it a point to have some around and I use it quite a bit. Never for legal documents, though. I think that the recorder will accept it but I expect that the rest of the team would freak.

I haven't had to use legal size document on anything except for a CP&F form in over a decade.?ÿ WA still accepts them but does not require them, at least not in my Counties.?ÿ I have never seen a legal sized document in my ID work.

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In AK the DNR Recorders office will accept just about any size, but if it's not Letter or Legal, for documents, they will charge extra. Working for the state DOT we were exempt from fees, but wondered if they would charge us an extra 0 if we decided to put our easement exhibits on ledger size. It seemed like we needed to show more and more stuff on those exhibits because the acquisition staff would use them to explain in detail to the landowner what was needed in relation to something that they could actually see. They would get signatures and whatever on these drawings and record them, not just use them for the "demonstration" purposes and then have a streamlined drawing for signature and recording.

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I did mention this was a government entity right? logic and common sense have no business there. (rant off)

Posted by: @richard-germiller

It seemed like we needed to show more and more stuff on those exhibits

Isn't that the truth!

You can still file legal size sheets at the courthouse, but they are reduced to fit on letter size to fit in the county's books.?ÿ To me it's just one more little change that makes today's world a little less desirable than yesterday.?ÿ

I'm still pissed they don't put wing windows in autos anymore... 😉