I came across this plat while researching a project nearby
i got a nail stuck in my shinner last week. hurt like seven bas#%&ards!
So, what was set 0.01' South and 0.01' East if they were going to all the trouble of stating the aluminum cap was in error? Whoever this is, I am very embarrased for them.
Looks like good reporting on what was in place on the ground. How would you have shown those things and their relationship to your ideal. Holding any one of them would also require showing all anyway, can't ignore evidence found. What I am guessing is that he set the alum cap and is showing where it ended up based on his comps., or held it and is showing its relation with the record. Multiple points do happen, it is how we deal with them that counts, I see nothing wrong with this way of dealing with multiple monuments.
jud
To me the question is "which one is the corner"? It seems that this guy isn't accepting anything, nor did he set anything. And calling something off "0.01 x 0.01" is just downright rediculous.
Maybe he's still looking for that 0.04'. I hope he finds it in that state of Confusion, which perhaps is that 57th state a certain prez thinks exists.
Meanwhile, his poor client just wants to know where the corner is.
The client knows very well where the surveyor who did this work thinks the proper corner location is located. It is referenced by 3 monuments using a local coordinate base.
jud
If the same surveyor went out the next day and resurveyed the same lot, he would arrive at a different corner location.
Would he update his plat and contradict himself?
If he set the aluminum monument, does he tell the landowner the "true" corner is a quarter inch over?
In 20 years when technology improves our measuring capabilities, does he expect his corner will be "wrong"?
And this was established by a land surveyor?
What have we come to?
Keith
He should have his license revoked for calling a pin 0.014' off.
We should all use his brand of equipment! 😉
0.01'x0.01'?
WHAT THE.....
Is this SOP in Colorado?
Where would anyone learn that?
Can you determine what he did and thought so you could retrace him? Is there any harm in what he has done here? Seems that most would do something different, I probably would have held the cap and as required by law, shown bearings to seconds and distances to hundredths for both of the required measured and record references. I want to know what harm this man has done? I see none, I don't even see any personal preferences stated in all of the fault finding. If you can retrace this work within reason, then he has done nothing to have his license pulled. Reminds me of a flock of democrats, "oops vultures", circling their prey.
jud
I am with you and most everyone else on this - go back tomorrow and find somethng different. - I cant measure that close and never will...
Maybe it is one of those.......that's the way it is done around here?
Has to be a reason for that kind of ratonale?
Keith
The Pincushion Effect-Lucas
Jeff Lucas has just published a very well written book on this subject, title The Pincushion Effect.
Well, if he used an EDM to shoot his distances, he can't shoot that accurately.
Seriously, you don't see the idiocy in calling a rebar with a cap off by 0.01' in the north and east?
The Pincushion Effect-Lucas
I would love to have that book,but not for $85!
Keith
Guys like this see a closed figure, that is ridged and stiff, representing the property he is surveying. They relate what they find to that, based on some grid and a basis of bearings.
Even the setters of the nail and shiner and #4 rebar are looking for a Nirvana grid that they can believe in and hold as the only truth. More than likely, the #4 rebar was set 30 years ago, in the original plat and the other 2 are the truth seeking expert measures.
Some of us know that nothing is absolute and some of us don't......
Cheers,
Radar
I really think it is a matter of liability; they very erroneously believe that a precise measurement of the deed distance will relieve them of any law suit! After all how could anybody measure better and show that their survey is wrong.
Does not belong in the survey world that I know about.
Keith
The Pincushion Effect-Lucas
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