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I was thinking about non-standard abbreviations and how they appear on survey maps.

Here is one of the worst examples of non-standard abbreviations I have ever seen.

Not only is nearly everything on this map an abbreviation, but sometimes several are concatenated to form a kind of sentence.

Even though a legend has been provided the abbreviations make for miserable reading.

I have tried to hide the identity of the surveyor in the image attached.

?ÿ


Historic boundaries and conservation efforts.

 
Posted : November 15, 2020 7:58 pm
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Historic boundaries and conservation efforts.

 
Posted : November 15, 2020 8:56 pm
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Historic boundaries and conservation efforts.

 
Posted : November 15, 2020 8:58 pm
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That map would benefit from some differentiation of the line weighting and perhaps some hatching. And as I stated earlier today, I'm not a fan of using a lot of abbreviations when it isn't absolutely necessary.?ÿ ?ÿ?ÿ


 
Posted : November 15, 2020 9:34 pm
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Once upon a time I worked for military intelligence agency.?ÿ The joke was that we could good to a quite restaurant and have a loud work related conversation without anyone understanding a word of our highly classified conversation.?ÿ Every other word was an acronym or abbreviation.?ÿ


 
Posted : November 15, 2020 10:30 pm

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Why is "abbreviation" such a long word? ƒ?? George Carlin


 
Posted : November 15, 2020 10:49 pm
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I'm not going to give the surveyor a hard time, he explains the notes in his legend, and if he would have done so with symbols it basically amounts to the same thing.?ÿ

But I do have a question:

AM-Assessor Map

Is an Assessor Map a thing there to be entered into the record?

I've never seen that one.?ÿ


 
Posted : November 16, 2020 8:34 am
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Confession time: ?ÿI am guilty of labelling thusly far too often: ?ÿNWC.E2.NEQ, etc. ?ÿThis thread has convicted me, it is time for me to return to labelling: ?ÿ

NORTHWEST CORNER

OF THE EAST HALF OF THE

NORTHEAST QUARTER


 
Posted : November 16, 2020 8:53 am
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@mightymoe

I identify adjoining parcels with the Assessor Map and Parcel ID and I think it is helpful. At least it is for me when I refer back to my file. I also include the full names of the current owners, their address, reference to their deed and any survey that may have been done on my map. It is not a requirement.


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@mark-mayer

I agree.

?ÿ


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Posted : November 16, 2020 9:08 am

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Posted by: @brad-ott

Confession time: ?ÿI am guilty of labelling thusly far too often: ?ÿNWC.E2.NEQ, etc. ?ÿThis thread has convicted me, it is time for me to return to labelling: ?ÿ

NORTHWEST CORNER

OF THE EAST HALF OF THE

NORTHEAST QUARTER

The test is whether the people who need to use the drawing can understand it unambiguously. It is adequate if the legend explains everything. But better to avoid a lot of uncommon abbreviations.

Personally, I think E2 NEQ is going too far, but have no problem with E 1/2 NE 1/4.

I recall once seeing the instruction on a form: "Do not abbrev."


 
Posted : November 16, 2020 9:08 am
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Some argue that identifying a found bar as being a "found 1/2" iron bar" is inadequate as some laypeople may assume it is a one-half inch slice off of some sort of iron bar just laying on the surface.?ÿ It is practically impossible to describe even the simplest object to all people effectively.

Creek, stream, watercourse, river, rill, slough, brook, etc.?ÿ You know what you call it but you don't know what the follower would call it based on their specific background.


 
Posted : November 16, 2020 9:41 am
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My biggest takeaway here is, "concatenated"

That is a new one to me


 
Posted : November 16, 2020 9:42 am
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@brad-ott

I'll meet you half way on this and suggest "NW Corner, E1/2 of NE1/4". Some abbreviations are common enough that most will understand.?ÿ?ÿ

?ÿ


 
Posted : November 16, 2020 9:46 am
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@brad-ott

E1/2NE1/4 is proper, after all it's used for deed descriptions.?ÿ


 
Posted : November 16, 2020 9:58 am

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They're still setting PK nails? Shoot, those are collector's items now. I *always* strove to differentiate between MAG nails, PK's, and other assorted ones.


The only superior evidence is that which you haven't yet found.

 
Posted : November 16, 2020 10:04 am
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@crashbox

I'm frequently heard hammering that if you actually find a PK it is at least 10 years old (now probably 20), and that is a significant bit of information. Most people labelling things as PKs have never seen an actual PK.

That said, I recently took possession of a work truck that has seen little use for several years. It's a 2009 model with 23k miles on it. Stowed in the back were several unopened boxes of genuine PKs of various sizes. Also a large supply of MAGs. Also a large bag of similar style off-brand nails. Yeah. IDK what to say about that either.?ÿ ?ÿ


 
Posted : November 16, 2020 10:20 am
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@norman-oklahoma I think Parker-Kalon discontinued their manufacture in 2012 or thereabouts. The last one I remember setting was around 2013 or so, albeit unintentionally (had one floating around in my vest).

Before I retired, I found a large plastic jar with a bunch of medium and large PK nails. It would have been nice to have them given to me as a retirement gift, but it would have been impossible since the taxpayers bought them 🙂 Such is life.


The only superior evidence is that which you haven't yet found.

 
Posted : November 16, 2020 10:54 am
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@mightymoe In King County here, the Assessor has produced maps that contain valuable information including bearings and distances in many cases. This information is from records that they have amassed over time and while they are clearly marked as not to be used for anything other than assessment purposes they sometime are the only source of information.?ÿ I would not generally rely on such information but it is a tool that we use. As far as referencing it goes, we have to make a statement of what information we used in the process of the survey.

Abbreviations are for the timid or arthritic. The only reason to not type in the words "iron pipe" would be if your fingers couldn't.?ÿ


 
Posted : November 16, 2020 11:31 am
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@mark-mayer and IF you use abbreviations at least give a ledger defining them.

Andy


 
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