GEOMETRIC1, post: 426720, member: 12623 wrote: A Leica and Carlson...NUFF said...
Except Leica and Carlson no longer play nice together.
A lot will depend on budget. The Leica TS16i and CS20 are an unbeatable combination. Extremely powerful EDM and the new Leica Captivate operating system is very user friendly. If you are willing to spend a little more, get the MS60. Hands down the most powerful and versatile robot on the market.
summerprophet, post: 426740, member: 8874 wrote: Except Leica and Carlson no longer play nice together.
They do work well together still. Just can't use the imaging features
I have Leica ts12 and Carlson2 DC works great.
Yesterday I demoed Geomax Zoom90 aka Carlson CR with SurvPC ( WOW ) and the price was quite a bit lower than the ts12
TRIMBLE, and don't look back.
a. Stunningly accurate
b. Stable
c. Fast
d. Quiet
e. Works like they advertise it will work
f. Smooth
g. Great battery life
h. Well packaged and ergonomic--from battery chargers to handles to size and shape of case, etc.
i. Incredibly good electronics.
You owe it to yourself to get a demo if you haven't seen one work. Even the original S6 is GREAT.
We have a trimble s6 and tsc3 with survey pro software. After using a variety of Leica robots with a variety of collectors and software I would go with trimble any day of the week. The consistency, lack of quirks, and accuracy won my vote. It's nice being able to focus on the work without having to worry about the gun.
Geomax Zoom 90 with Carlson Surveyor 2
It's easy to use
doesn't have too many complicated components that can fail
affordable
gun turns incredibly fast
gun tracks through crazy conditions (I'm often amazed it's still on me)
I think it is miles ahead of the Leica 1200 I have that's a few years old (I can't speak for the brand new Leica stuff, but that's a big price jump from Geomax)
I bought it from Allen Precision and they have great tech support if you ever need it. (I have not needed it for this gun)
My Leica TS12 and Carlson Data collector work well together.
But here's a whole field crew! (Complete with angry looking party chief.) 
Trimble S7 with an active target. TSC3 with Access. Works great, FAST!
It does everything well, control, topo.
For topo put it on track, then you can topo as fast as you can walk. I set up the tiles so I can just push code buttons,
Saw a sister agency out topo'ing with an S7 with two rods, circular prisms, looked like the old way, painful to watch, they had an I-man running the instrument and DC. I could topo twice as fast by myself. Like WTF man?
Yup. I got a refurbished S7 through Trimble complete package. Came perfect. I couldn't tell the difference between this and brand new. I think it was a demo unit and saved me about 10k.
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Peyton, post: 426743, member: 12539 wrote: Hands down the most powerful and versatile robot on the market.
... not named SX10.
get a trimble s6 or s5 or s7 sx10 if you have mucho dinero.
After having used Trimble 5600 and S6, I felt hamstrung by the data collector software. It worked but was missing some bells and whistles. Based on this board and the old RPLS board, I went with a Leica used TCRP 1203 with a Carlson DC. I love it. No extraneous gizmos, cables, or batteries at the range pole. I can use my circular prisms for backsites. My next one will be either a Geomax Zoom or the Carlson version. They tell me the tracking is even better.
Really this is a Ford vs. Chevy debate. You probably should go with a dealer you trust and is willing to help when you have issues.
Mark Indzeris, post: 426931, member: 1019 wrote: Really this is a Ford vs. Chevy debate. You probably should go with a dealer you trust and is willing to help when you have issues.
This +100
Mark Indzeris, post: 426931, member: 1019 wrote: No extraneous gizmos, cables, or batteries at the range pole. I can use my circular prisms for backsites.
This all refers to the 5600; that's not relevant to what they have now.
As someone who has extensive experience with both Leica and Trimble, there are two reasons that I'd go with Trimble:
1) If you get the Active Track prism you will NEVER have an erroneous shot to a taillight, safety vest, window reflection, or whatever else a passive tracker can and will bite on.
2) Trimble Access is far superior to anything Leica has. Again, 5600 users will say the data collector software wasn't good; Trimble has come a long way since then - the S6 came out in 2004.
