If you ever feel the urge to drive a skinny rebar next to an existing old iron pipe that matches every other old iron pipe found in an old subdivision, please call me first and let me talk you off the ledge.?ÿ
Found this one a long time ago ! The thing is the caps are from the same company ! ! !?ÿ
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Some young'ns need a pop on the noggin for such behavior.
Here, let me play the "other side".
I drove a rebar in beside the old pipe, because it was very rusted, and bent. I dug down, found the bent place, and set my rebar so that it's top was where I estimated the top of the pipe used to be. I'd recovered other pipe in this area, and none hat the bent top, that that one had.?ÿ
My actions preserved the actual corner.
I also capped it, taking responsibility for my actions.
I have a sketch in my field book, describing my actions that day.
I'll send you a pic of it, if you are interested.
Nate
I have probably set a few bars in close proximity to something else that existed simply because I had already given up on finding anything at other places where something was reportedly set.?ÿ I try to remember to wave the magic yellow stick around before setting something new but sometimes I've already put it away.?ÿ When the bar driving gets tough a common thing to say is : Probably hitting someone else's unrecorded bar. ???? ?????ÿ
In fact,?ÿ a fellow with another company told me one day he had been following a job of mine and found all but one bar.?ÿ As he went to set his bar, it sort of bounced back up at him as if hitting a rock.?ÿ He pulled his bar and dug down a few inches to discover my bar and cap.?ÿ He grabbed his magic yellow stick and once again found no signal from the top.?ÿ If he moved it towards the side he would start to get a signal.?ÿ I guess I must of pounded all of the magnetism to the bottom end of the bar.
Now make an argument for not pounding the skinny rebar down to a reasonable distance below grade in order to flag the found pipe up, perhaps to such a distance that the next guy might not even notice it was there.
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All right then, get out the Wiffle Bat and start whacking the hell out of me. In the multitude of houses that I have laid out I have pincushioned myself a few times that I personally caught in the field. My excuse, ??control set on a busy construction site can move?. ?????ÿ
In the real world it??s called sloppiness, and was addressed so as not to occur in the future. It seemed to occur more when different crews performed tasks on the same site.?ÿ
Yep - I probably should have.?ÿ
This corner turned out to be the least of my worries on this lot and it??s adjacent abandoned right of way. I guess karma struck me for making this derogatory post. I should just feel blessed to be able to make a living at something I am passionate about.?ÿ
Always remember:?ÿ This is why we get paid the big bucks. ?????ÿ
I have done the exact same thing !?ÿ !?ÿ Every situation requires a different approach.
@flga-2-2
Have you ever recovered a T-bar? They're shaped like the letter 'T', with a shiner placed in the middle. The only ones I've ever recovered were property corners in Palm Beach County. I wonder if they were made that way so that you could set them most of the way by hand.
@field-dog Back in the early 1980's I worked for a fellow who used those.?ÿ He was the first I knew of around there that identified the corners as being set by him.?ÿ The bars had a small hole in the top for the "tacks" supplied with the discs that had a dimple in the top.?ÿ We were using the Kern "fourth leg" tripods so that the centering leg would fit into the dimple.?ÿ If I dug deep enough into my attic I could probably find one or tow of those discs.
Andy
It would have been even better if his surname had started with a T.
In my case, having a C shaped bar wouldn't work quite as well.
No, not in Central Florida but I have in Palm Beach County. In Central Florida I was always first on site to stake lot corners or verify those set by the platting Surveyor in newly developed subdivisions. In Palm Beach County we surveyed everything from boundary to finished houses. Since 98% was farmland or groves we did find several but not that many T posts. I always thought T posts were used for wire animal or children pens. ?????ÿ
@paden-cash Sometimes it's not us youngun's... I once had an RPLS call a found iron rod a witness to a corner at a distance in the hundredths of feet away.?ÿ He gave the exact bearing and distance in the metes and bounds description.?ÿ I asked him if he was sure he wanted to note it like that and was told that since I'm not registered that I should keep my mouth shut and let the professionals take care of things that mattered.?ÿ?ÿ
I did not stay at that company long.
?ÿSometimes it is an old guy who needs a pop on the noggin for such behavior.?ÿ His ego was bigger than his knowledge.
I know I've done it, as part of a crew in my early days, under the direction of the LS.?ÿ We went to a payphone, called, told him we found pipes, all offset about a half foot from his calc'ed points.?ÿ He said set the rebar anyway, so we did.
I haven't done it myself, intentionally that is, since I've had my license.
