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The following list of "don'ts" comes from many years of reviewing surveys conducted by many others plus my own work.  If you can imagine a mistake happening, it WILL happen some day.  Many of these do not qualify as being something that MUST be changed.  They are things that SHOULD be considered for change so that you appear to be a skilled, conscientious  professional.  Sloppy work should not go out the door in any case.  My review comments do not reflect absolute dictates that some governmental reviewers might nitpick just to make their job appear to be a critical function.  You are the professional signing and stamping the final product, not me.  I am more than happy to have a little discussion as to why or why not my comment is valid.  Then I will sign off on YOUR opinion of what, if anything, gets changed.

 

Don't assume a number or bearing or azimuth is correct.  Know that it is correct.  Many times this is the draftsman's error, whether it be an employee or you. If you measure a line by doing one method, you may get a different answer by using a different method.  A common reason may be having on open symbol at a line intersection and the lines have been trimmed to edge of the symbol.  Another error can occur when you think you snapped to the end of line, actually snapped to a perpendicular, and the scale is such you don't catch it by sight.

Don't sign the plat if your license number is incorrect.  It might be your license number in a different state where you work more frequently or it might be a typo.  

If you write a description that says two lines are parallel, they need to show the exact same bearing or azimuth on the drawing.  Not some number of seconds different.  Same issue with lines declared to be perpendicular to each other..

Don't be unrealistic about your precision when calculating area.  2.056276 acres is not attainable with true working measurements.

Don't describe a tract as being in Clean County when it is is Dirty County.

Be absolutely positive in PLSS work that the correct section number, township number and direction and range number and direction are all correct.  I recently had a survey that indicated it was in township 18 when it was in township 28.  A simple typo that escaped everyone else's eye but mine.  That made a difference of 60 miles and a very different county.

In offices with multiple signing licensed surveyors, make sure the one doing the signing is the person named in the text.

If the job is in Jones Fifth Addition, don't report that it is in Jones Fourth Addition.

If the job is in Shively's Subdivision, don't report that it is in Shively's Addition.

If the job is in Pearman's Addition, don't report that it is in Pearlman's Addition.

Be wary of using copy and paste to drop in 20 identical items where 19 or more need to then be changed to read correctly.  That's how you get a 900 foot line that reads 6.72 feet.

The Register of Deeds, or equivalent title, may reject your perfect plat because you did not include what HE/SHE dictates what must be included in your title block.  Oh, yes.  It happens.  An example: a retracement survey in a rural subdivision must say: Boundary Survey of Lot 2, Block 7, Irene's Subdivision in Section 33, Township 31 South, Range 22 East of the Sixth P.M., Glennwood Township, Morton County, Kansas.  Do not simply say: A Boundary Survey in Irene's Sub., Morton County, KS.

Don't say East when you mean West, etc.

Recently had a plat had a scale that worked well for everything except one boundary line that was incredibly short.  The line was probably drawn correctly and described correctly in the formal description.  However, the call said to go South 01 degrees 02 minutes 06 seconds East, 1.47 feet, thence to somewhere else.  The label on the drawing pointed toward this tiny speck and read to go North 01 degrees 02 minutes 06 seconds West, 1.47 feet.  Either way might have been correct for the situation.  This is one example of why I very much prefer that the line labels and the description words agree.

If the tract has 14 boundaries, every last one of them is critical to having a correct description.  This is far too common and really hard to catch.

In every case, match the labels on the plat to the words used in the descriptions.  Many years ago a title company hired me to do a survey and then dictated that I change my words.  The tract was in the west half of the southwest quarter of a PLSS section.  My description started with:  Beginning at the West Quarter Corner of Section......... No No NO.  I had to change the words to read: Beginning at the Northwest Corner of the West Half of the Southwest Quarter.................  The argument was that they insisted they didn't know where a West Quarter Corner was so they could not insure my description as being a portion of the parent tract.

Use the term "except" when something is being excepted.  DO NOT use the term "accept".

When you have a description that has more than one exception tract, be certain to phrase your words correctly to define, in the simplest way, what each exception is being excepted from.  Sometimes what you thought you wrote is not what the client, etc.reads.  Also provide the correct area of the resulting tract.  Don't let your final words be the area of an excepted tract rather than the area of the tract that is left after the exceptions are removed.

The term is metes and bounds, not some similar list of letters of the alphabet.

When using a description style where there is a "Commencing" point and a "Beginning" point after one or more terms have described the path between them, be certain to have a path that reads "thence ( something, something) to the Point of Beginning; Thence..........  I can't possibly count the number of times when the POB words are absent,  Very common error.

If the statutes dictate a NORTH arrow and a graphical scale be present, make sure they are present as opposed to simply stating: 1" = 60'.

Show found or set monuments everywhere or add a statement on the drawing as to why no monument was set.

Clean up the final drawing to improve your own image.  Don't stack text on top of other text, for example.  Don't accidentally drop a block of data such that it obscures other information completely (white's out).  Had one a few days ago when a label for a line obscured two lot identifiers (Lot 8  Lot 9) and obscured the E used signifying East in a bearing listing for another boundary line.  Moving the label 1/8" to the right and down maybe 1/4" is all that was needed.

Will either of the following statements be satisfactory for the "Basis of Bearings" where you operate?  North based on geodetic North.  or    North Based on State Plane Coordinates, Kansas South Zone  Should some statement be made as to conversion used, or not used, to provide "ground" data?

Comply with whatever signing/sealing practices are dictated by the jurisdiction controlling your survey project area. These definitely can vary from place to place.  For decades, Kansas dictated the land surveyor sign with blue ink.  Meanwhile, engineers could sign with black ink.

Do points serve a valid purpose in survey descriptions?  I will let someone else fight to the death on that battlefield.

Has something been prorated or proportioned or sorta, kinda something ignoring the King's claim?

Does a double proportioned corner end up in a slightly different spot depending on whether one is using state plane or geodetic definition of where NORTH is?

When drafting a formal subdivision plat (requiring multiple jurisdictional signatures), get any survey-dependent review completed before routing the final plat to the numerous other signers.

When the ultimate jurisdiction for the location has an 82-page document of thou's and thou not's, follow that guidance or notate why specific items have been eliminated by negotiation.  The anal-retentive, pin-headed survey reviewer probably has said 82-page document and may guide you if discrepancies are found.

P.S.  Don't send me such a plat that has no lot numbers or letters shown by which all future conveyances are to be identified.

 

 


 
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My city has a rule, which is predicated on the county recorders rule. No graytone or colors on the exhibit maps. No photos, aerial or otherwise. No text smaller than 8pt. Probably 8 out of 10 submissions fail on that front. 

 

Basis of Bearings is a pet peeve of mine. I have never in my life done a boundary survey by running out record bearings relative to some base line.  For me, stating that the survey is done on the relevant grid system related to NAD83 should be sufficient.   


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Posted : July 10, 2026 10:39 pm
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It was somewhere around 1993 when I sat in on a lecture by Knud Hermanson from Maine.  He provided a host of visuals depicting critical elements of a properly performed boundary survey.  Each example showed all structures, sidewalks, easements, etc.  This is generally not shown on run of the mill surveys in Kansas by agreement with the client, so noted on the plat.  Knud blew my mind.  He showed an example of where the rural style mailbox was on the opposite side of the road from the tract surveyed.  He then gave a long-winded explanation on encroachments.  Never in my life had I thought about the placement of the mail box being worthy of being shown, let alone considering whether or not that might be an encroachment.

Do what you must to keep your critical jurisdiction happy.


 
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Thank you to Divine Bovine for your sage advice. I am certainly but not proudly guilty of a few of your mentioned oversights in my past (hopefully all past). So there, you got me.... I am “fessing up”. 😱 

I don’t know if I can completely agree with Norman’s position regarding BOBs.  Albeit I personally prefer to work in State Plane, if I am retracing a survey or other map that I am going to record, I will typically rotate my map to their BOB before recording. That being said, I have on occasion depending on circumstances, reported a retraced map with my grid BOB bearings and then added or labeled a statement similar to:  “Said line bears: yadda, yadda, yadda" on said recorded map,-page- file etc., or the opposite as well, referring back to grid. 

Speaking of “pet peeves”  and “anal-retention”, I despise the use of the terminology and word “Lots” on a Parcel Map.  They are PARCELS. The future parcels can and should be described as: ‘Parcel 1 of yadda, yadda, yadda, map’. I have too frequently had to instead describe “Lot 1” of yadda, yadda, parcel map, because the description in my opinion needs to be consistent with the with the name the described area was created with.

Have a GREAT weekend y'all! 


 
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Thank you for your advice. I always wait a day or two to proofread the map before publishing.


Historic boundaries and conservation efforts.

 
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If there is a list of comments that are for sure going to require some corrections to be made, I will add in typos and such that I would not mention if everything else is clean.  The latest example: Jully  That is not going to change anything about the survey, but, I have some clients who have made it clear they appreciate helping them to turn out the best plat possible.


 
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An appointed County Surveyor in a distant county from the counties where I serve as survey reviewer has interpreted the statutes to say he is the ONLY person who can determine the true location of a section corner in that county.  Thus, one can't just go out and do what they do everywhere else.  He must be involved, in the field, to approve the location selected by the company surveyor.  Simply sending him your final plat will not work.


 
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Another common error struck again this week.  There are three nearly-identical tracts but the stated areas are slightly different.  The area shown for Tract 1 is the area shown in the description of Tract 2 or 3.  Then the area shown for either of the others is what it says somewhere else.  Occasionally, the size differential is very evident but not caught.


 
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Oops 


 
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Basis of Bearings is a pet peeve of mine. I have never in my life done a boundary survey by running out record bearings relative to some base line.  For me, stating that the survey is done on the relevant grid system related to NAD83 should be sufficient. 

I respectfully disagree. Physical monuments with a stated basis for the boundaries shown on a map are critical for the cadaster, IMHO. Really, bearings on lines denote the angle between the two lines. It sometimes seems that the reason for bearings on lines is to make it easier for real estate lawyers to read legal descriptions, or (heaven help us) they write one.


 
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I respectfully disagree.

I think that you are agreeing with me more than disagreeing. I didn't say that bearings were not important.


 
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I just wish surveyors would run a closure on the boundary before submitting a plat for review. Just this morning, another subdivision where the boundary does not close by 5 feet.

Also, about 20% of surveyors in my area spell separate with 3 e's.


 
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In the largest city in my home county there is a subdivision that was surveyed by the City Engineer in the 1960's.  The subdivision boundary does not close.  The largest block does not close.  None of the lots in that block close.  It was the last block to see development.  I was the first surveyor to survey a lot or two in that block.  All lots had been sold but no one had built a house or made any other form of improvement.  The City Engineer had been dead for many years.  The City had built concrete streets with curbs on all sides.  The City had installed utilities along what they assumed was the central line between all lots with utility easements on either side shown on the Plat.  I had to "reinvent the wheel".  What a nightmare.  Fortunately, I surveyed enough lots with my solution before any other surveyor came along.  He found my surveys and followed my lead.  Most houses in that block today would sell for around $500,000.


 
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Another issue for those in PLSSia to watch for.  When you are working in say Section 15, label all of your government corners as : Southwest Corner, Section 15 or whichever corner it happens to be.  Do not label it as being the comapable corner of a different section, i.e., Northeast Corner, 21.  Keep them all as something of Section 15.  Otherwise, you are apt to mislabel the corner by mixing the sections, such as a case I found today that said; Northwest Corner, Northeast Quarter, Section 22 (South Quarter Corner).  The survey was in Section 15 and the corner shown was it's south quarter corner.  Inserting something about the adjacent section adds confusion where there should be none.

Today's error may have come about by the field guy coding the monument as found to be a North Quarter because he was following the references for finding that corner of the section to the south.  The draftsman did not realize he was adding apples and oranges in his label.

There are situaions, especially along standard parallels where it is appropriate t identify and label monuments found that are corners of the adjacent section, where the above goal should not be applied.


 
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@norman-oklahoma I worked for 67 years, in surveying for 62 years, a registrant for 58 years - and never once did I actually use the stated basis of bearings tied to two monuments.


 
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Last night I reviewed 2 surveys from 1 company- they don’t do too many surveys in this county. I didn’t recognize the name of the draftsman- /submitter -on one 18/24 of reviewable items from my ARM checklist needed to be addressed-the other 16/24. Obviously there was no internal QA/QC done prior to submittal.


 
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Had another bad one show up today.  I sent a message back advising them to VERY SLOWLY correct the descriptions of Tracts 2 and 3.  They had created three tracts out of the entirety of the southeast quarter of a section.  I would have simply called them: 1)  The north half of the southeast quarter  2)  The southwest quarter of the southeast quarter  and 3)  The southeast quarter of the southeast quarter.

Nope.  Apparently, someone involved in the big picture decided that each tract must be described by metes and bounds.  That's OK, but, you must then over-describe the thing using phrases such as: thence along the north line of said quarter to the northwest corner of the northwest quarter of said quarter a distance of somany feet, thence....  The trick is to remember which line of what quarter-quarter you are following.  Also, be wary of using "said" a dozen times and half of them are incorrect.  The word quarter appeared where they intended to say quarter-quarter, and vice versa.  Pretend you are a first grader attempting to pronounce new words by running your finger along the text to help focus.  The descriptions are only six inches from the drawing, for Pete's sake.


 
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Pretend you are a first grader attempting to pronounce new words by running your finger along the text to help focus. 

Back in the day descriptions were typed into a blank space on a deed form. It was often necessary to cram a lot of words into a too small space, so niceties like spacing of individual phrase was dispensed with. In time it became normal practice to cram everything into a tight block even when it was unnecessary to do so. These days - at least around here - most descriptions are written in separate documents and attached to deeds as "Exhibit A", with a practically unlimited amount of room available. But the old practice of cramming the text into a tight block persists. I like to put a paragraph break between each phrase. Everytime the word "thence" is used it begins a new line, with spacing between it and the preceeding line. Makes the whole thing much easier for the proof reader, and the user, to follow.

For the record, I f'ing hate it when legals are written in all caps.  There is no reason. It does not make it easier to read. If it was, books would be published that way. There would be no reason to have lower case letters. 

Over the last 25 or 30 years it has become de rigueur to include an Exhibit B sketch with every legal description. A nice idea, but as time goes by I see the sketches packing in more and more useless details that often times only serve to confuse. Keep your sketches clean and simple. If the information adds to comprehension of the written words, use it. Any extraneous details should be omitted. 


 
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Some interesting points you bring up, hc. I try to not get complacent with checking my plats. The larger projects with multiple iterations can get tiresome completely checking the whole thing over and not just what was contained in the last redlining. But, I've been burned by not doing so, for one reason or another.


 
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I have grown to accept the fact that it is nearly impossible for the typical surveyor to catch absolutely everything that could be wrong on their work product.  Having someone who doesn't know what SHOULD be there in the first place is necessary.  It seems that every week some new example appears in someone else's product.  One from this week stated that the parent tract was three common lots plus the vacated alley north of said lots.  Then the parent tract was split into a north tract and a south tract of equal area.  What the drawing showed, however, was three common lots and the SOUTH HALF of the vacated alley north of said lots.  Words are important.  Use them correctly.  


 
Posted : August 8, 2026 9:36 pm

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