Double Corners

Here we go again !!!..... ready... set... go!

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I see some room for a 3rd corner to be added.

If the aluminum monuments match the plat distances better screw the original monuments. ... just joking.

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We see the one you are measuring to. Good choice. Just note Fd original pipe and capped rod - measurements to pipe.

It is just so frustratingly unfortunate that the surveyors of yester-year were just so darn incompetent in making their measurements. If they would have only put more time and effort in learning how to measure precisely, we wouldn't have to be continually fixing their incompetent mistakes by placing all these pincushions.

That's just wrong.

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I'd say he is accepting the pipe and the cap is his way of getting his number on it and not disturbing it.

I see that a lot with section corner stones, a cap near a stone. I locate the stone and note the cap as a reference mon.

The same thing happened with the GLO accepting some private brass caps set in 1915, they came back in 1916 and set theirs alongside the first ones, of course the first one is the location, back then .3-.5' was only background noise.

I'm only guessing that he isn't trying to monument some math solution, which would be sad.

I've seen this stuff before.
Usually some surveyor stakes out the deed on a bogus bearing refence to boot.

At least those corners overlap one another so the local network of monuments fit the record???? just saying! Jp

I assume this scenario in this case:

Memorials

4-91. Where there is no tree or other bearing object, as above described, and where a mound of stone or pits are impracticable, a suitable memorial is deposited alongside the monument. A memorial may consist of any durable article which will serve to identify the location in case the monument is destroyed. Such articles as glassware, stoneware, a marked (X) stone, a charred stake, a quart of charcoal, or pieces of metal constitute a suitable memorial. A full description of such articles is embodied in the field notes wherever they are employed as a memorial. When replacing an old monument with a new one, such as substituting an iron post for an old marked stone, the old marker is preserved as a memorial.

(1973 Manual)

It's strange how in my early survey life, it seemed that the supervising LS's always looked for reasons to reject other found monuments.

Now, I almost never find a reason to reject found monuments, called for or otherwise. I presume that they're correct, check them, and usually hold them.

JPH, post: 425775, member: 6636 wrote: It's strange how in my early survey life, it seemed that the supervising LS's always looked for reasons to reject other found monuments.

Now, I almost never find a reason to reject found monuments, called for or otherwise. I presume that they're correct, check them, and usually hold them.

AMEN

I bet I know what the problem is. The later ones were set by people who merely thought they were surveyors because they held a four-year degree from an accredited surveying college and had 10 years of progressive experience but were told that they could not claim to be surveyors because they were not licensed as Professional Surveyors by the state in which they were working. They didn't need to be licensed because they were employees of a surveying firm with higher level employees holding such licenses already.

You could wrap duct tape around them and call it 1 fat corner.
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Eyott_Surveyor_Fred_MD, post: 425802, member: 2451 wrote: You could wrap duct tape around them and call it 1 fat corner.
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This is a great idea! We need to make it industry specific, though. 'Surveyor's Putty' or something along those lines. A JB weld type product that magically, inaninstant, resolves those pesky (small tolerance) pin-farmers once and for all.

Act now and we'll throw in a handy 4lb. sledge to accommodate those larger blunders. Be plagued no more.

Actual use is at your own risk. Practitioners may be subject to: irate landowners, professional board scrutiny, or angry surveyors (dependent upon their capacity to accept and leave well-enough alone).

It was a great spring day in the filed y'all. Hope your day went well, too.

Eyott_Surveyor_Fred_MD, post: 425802, member: 2451 wrote: You could wrap duct tape around them and call it 1 fat corner.
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Around here some "original corners" were stones that measured 3" x 12" or so on the top. I wish some people would keep that in mind...

If he really wanted his aluminium cap there, he should have just put his cap on the pipe.
I'm assuming he found the pipes and still decided to place his rebar and cap. The corners have about half, to a foot of error, so they were not set a record distance, one was a block corner. The caps were stamped with the lot numbers. That may have been the purpose, however 2 of the corners were about 2-3 tenths away from the pipes.

In his defense, he is an older surveyor and believes a few tenths is on the money for a five acre rural tract.

Holy Cow, post: 425799, member: 50 wrote: I bet I know what the problem is. The later ones were set by people who merely thought they were surveyors because they held a four-year degree from an accredited surveying college and had 10 years of progressive experience but were told that they could not claim to be surveyors because they were not licensed as Professional Surveyors by the state in which they were working. They didn't need to be licensed because they were employees of a surveying firm with higher level employees holding such licenses already.

Or maybe they were Registered Engineerings and were gifted a Surveyor License