DMS

charge extra. working for morons is expensive.

No, no, I shouldn't leave the wrong impression, they aren't morons!! lol

Only I haven't ever done direction that way before, I like my degrees, minutes and seconds and can't stand decimal degrees. I just don't think that way, after all these years, particularly for lats and longs.

This is what it ends up looking like:

the "not in feet and inches" had me in doubt

those dang feet and inches!!

I would have to agree with them. I avoid feet and inches like the plague. I like doing carpentry around the house, as needed, but the biggest struggle for me is dealing with the stupid feet and inches.

Just because they always see it that way doesn't mean it is correct.

Argumentum ad verecundiam
http://rationalwiki.org/wiki/Appeal_to_tradition

I am little amused the minute and seconds are a good thing but feet and inches are terrible. Azimuth makes computer functions easier, decimal degrees are needed to compute, decimal feet are good for computers but only surveyors use them.

I started my career with Azimuths and decimal feet moved to meters I thought I was headed to a simpler life. Then I moved to the U.S. and found surveyors still thought they were navigating a ship but wait military use a 360° circle. I guess we missed the memo.

Just musing

David

> I am little amused the minute and seconds are a good thing but feet and inches are terrible. Azimuth makes computer functions easier, decimal degrees are needed to compute, decimal feet are good for computers but only surveyors use them.
>
> I started my career with Azimuths and decimal feet moved to meters I thought I was headed to a simpler life. Then I moved to the U.S. and found surveyors still thought they were navigating a ship but wait military use a 360° circle. I guess we missed the memo.
>
> Just musing
>
> David

Actually the Military uses Mils

Tradition

Babylonian mathematics had a sexagesimal number system since before they had zero.

wiki

Sandskrit

I once took a Math course in which I had to learn how to multiply & divide in sandskrit. That was probably the least useful thing I ever learned and quickly forgot.

GRADS!

Most did not pick up on the "feet and inches" meaning...minutes and seconds.

If it was me, I would label it both ways. The way I am used to and the way they asked me to label it. I would just use a smaller text on my way.

I think most of us have had that happen; similar to "are we using big or little inches", or "are we using 12 inches to the foot or 10 inches to the foot."

I actually had a girl at the state O&G tell me a plat I turned in didn't plot in the section I said it was in, so I thought uh, oh, looked it up and everything was fine. Asked what the problem was and she said it plots way south of where I show it and why did I send it with the lat and long in feet and inches?

It was an older plat that I went out to years later to check up on for the O&G company and rather than change any numbers on the plat I resubmitted it as it was drawn, which was in DMS format and perfectly acceptable under the regulations, only the new staff had never seen one that way. SIGH!!

I spent half an hour explaining to the girl what it was and assured her I wouldn't send another one in in DMS. Such an awful thing!!!

In pure math you'd use radians!

But I like my math messy!!

N 0.5672rad E to a.............

or

2.0793rad az..........

Anyone who survived calculus should be fine with it!!!!!!!

You could have North Az or South Az even a standard East Az.

Now you're making my head hurt;-)

2 pi radians around a circle. Easy as pie! You'd have azimuths from 0 to 6.283. Of course then we'd have true radians and grid radians, SPC radians, LDP radians. I'm sure it could be totally normal messed up for sure. We'd probably even have meta radians. To simplify we'd just make the center of standard radian north radiate off the capital dome in Austin. Make the whole US one grid radian system from there. My basis of bearing is grid radian Austin System standardized for the US.

:good: