It has been 5 yrs now. New transaction. I am looking for concise, and diplomatic means to explain, this to him.
If I go to title co, and buy title ins, then it has a DATE and a TIME.
If I try to use LAST WEEKS title insurance, they won't accept it. The DATE and TIME has to be moved up, They HAVE to go to courthouse, and SEE if the status on the title changed.
IF a realtor sells a home, and makes a commission, then RESELLS the home a yr later, does he get his commission again?
"Hey, you already got paid your commission". Next time it's free!
Same thing they tell surveyor. "Give me copy of survey".
What's your favorite diplomatic method?
I feel corners should be checked.
Nate
Tell the realtor the survey documents belong to the client that originally paid for them. Call them up for a copy, not you.
Send the agent a written contract to provide the services needed to produce a current version of final product that was asked for. That should be a big enough hint.
Diplomacy and ÛÏRealtorÛ are like oil and water.
A simple NO is sufficient.
Where is Pat May?
Just one of many reasons I live in a recording State. But that doesn't help you...
As has been said, point out that the product was done for a specific client. If they want it released then they need to give written permission. The realtor will need to sign a release that states the map may not represent current conditions, and pay for my time.
Do not allow yourself to apologize for being a good business man...
Be nice, and give them a bargain.
Charge them what it cost originally instead of what it would cost today.
After all, the property costs more today and his commission will be more today.
He would be saving money.
Brad Ott, post: 396644, member: 197 wrote: Where is Pat May?
I don't do any "social media" but I believe Pat and Robbie are doing fine in Central Florida. 😎
Nate, but you were uploading one of your client's plat on the other thread.
it is filed in Book xxxx of Maps at Page xxxx in the County Recorder's Office, copies are $2 a page
What the realtor is really hoping you will do is hand over a pretty new plat with a current date on it. He/she can get the recorded version that is readily available to the entire world but that won't satisfy the true goal.
Nate The Surveyor, post: 396630, member: 291 wrote: I am looking for concise, and diplomatic means to explain, this to him.
I have something you need. I sell these things for a living. What it cost me is irrelevant. If you want it you will pay my fee.
Nate,
The realtor will go online and download a copy. If it hasn't been filed with the state, the realtor will file 'failure to file' complaint with the BOR. Call me for the name of the surveyor who lost his license for failure to file.
DDSM
Well, the above answers are good, but you want to be a diplomat and not get the realtor mad at you, when you tick one person off, 10 other people hear about it.
So, give him something he can understand is a possible- like below.
Sorry, we lost those plats when the office flooded.
Had a computer crash and lost a bunch of files and that was one of them (darn it I should have backed them up - now I do).
We gave out all the originals at the last closing 5 years ago and we don't have any more originals, all we have is our field notes. (before you use that, make sure of your states requirements for retaining records)
any more ???
Why lie to them, Why not explain the potential liability and the fact that this information is your livelihood. This can be done in a non condescending way. If they are still upset that you won't cut your own throat do you really want them as a client anyway.
Dan B. Robison, post: 396772, member: 34 wrote: Nate,
The realtor will go online and download a copy. If it hasn't been filed with the state, the realtor will file 'failure to file' complaint with the BOR. Call me for the name of the surveyor who lost his license for failure to file.
DDSM
I don't believe that any Board would revoke a license for failure to record 1 map...
Jones, post: 396787, member: 10458 wrote: Why lie to them, Why not explain the potential liability and the fact that this information is your livelihood. This can be done in a non condescending way. If they are still upset that you won't cut your own throat do you really want them as a client anyway.
Good point Jones. Why do any surveyors assume that people's ignorance has to do with taking advantage of them? Some people genuinely don't understand what our product is, and don't think they are being an imposition. Some are, in fact, trying to take advantage and should know better. Stating what you can and can't do, and why, is probably the best solution. Someone gets mad, well maybe you don't want to attract their business anyway.
Jones, post: 396787, member: 10458 wrote: Why lie to them, Why not explain the potential liability and the fact that this information is your livelihood.
Over 40 years I've found a little white lie is a lot easier. Sort of like it's easier to ask forgiveness than to ask permission.
In the beginning I tried your approach, but found out they just don't care about you and your liability -- they just want their piece of paper.
O
Yes, lying is easier. But, should professionals be taking the "easy" way out? I doubt it, but hey, it is YOUR reputation...........
All it takes is one lie, and I'll never trust or do business with that person again.
What's your favorite diplomatic method?
Realtor: I'd like a copy of the previous survey
Surveyor: I'd like to date Elizabeth Hurley...guess we're both out of luck
Never was much of a diplomat