No Trespassing

Seriously...

The only frightening thing about the sign is that he spent tons of money on the fence it sits on...he probably has excess money and time to sue you...

Ah, that sucks

And if you go for it, you know he's going to be coming up the driveway the minute you spot the monument, but haven't had a chance to shoot it yet

Extending that courtesy will likely be met by the owner reciprocating.?ÿ?ÿ

@fairbanksls

Yes, I always approach the land owner.

Of course, up there in AK, surveyors doing their job and heading to a monument are not trespassing (after giving notice), from what I remember. Not so here in WA where RADAR and I toil.

BTW, this should be the model law for every state in the union:

AS 34.65.020. Entry Upon Land For Survey Purposes.
(a) A land surveyor or an employee of a land surveyor may enter public or private land or water in the state only to occupy, locate, relocate, install, or replace survey monuments, to locate boundaries, to determine geodetic positions, and to make surveys and maps.
(b) The land surveyor shall give reasonable notice to the owner or occupant of the land of an intent to enter private land for survey purposes. The notice must indicate the anticipated date of the entry for survey purposes.
(c) Notice under (b) of this section is not required for a survey along previously surveyed boundaries within a platted subdivision accepted or recorded by the federal government or approved under AS 29.40.110 or 40.15.010.
(d) A land surveyor or an employee of a land surveyor who complies with the notice requirements of (b) of this section is liable to the landowner only for actual damages.
(e) The attorney general may bring an action in the name of the state to restrain and prevent the obstruction of entry under (a) of this section.

Well I don't think he's asserting anything that isn't true or misleading.?ÿ ?ÿAlthough he is rather obtuse in his declaration to the general public I believe that's just an indication of his personality.?ÿ Give him a call and let him know what you're needing.

BTW - All of the "go or no go" on my field work hinges on contact with any of the owners around the work area.?ÿ I started doing this about 5 years ago; it's a PITA sometimes and can scuttle an otherwise perfect day.?ÿ But I try to make contact well ahead of my field visit.

Oh, and wear the red ball cap with proper attire.?ÿ If you can have Lee Greenwood blaring on your truck radio it might help.?ÿ 😉

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@paden-cash

That sign is sitting in WA...just as many gov't hating leftys as rightys out here. We even have a left wing militia out here on the left coast.

A few years back I marked up a plan to give to the field crew with the limits of topo; the crew chief took a picture of this sign that's about 100' short of my limits and told me that the bottom line trumped my instructions?ÿ

@james-fleming

Wimps. In my day we just hopped the fence.

I think that I send a letter or make a call and get permission before I walk through that gate.?ÿ

@norman-oklahoma

Maybe he just needs a hug.... ?????ÿ

I prefer to find out if I'm dealing with nut job before I go trompsing through their property or what they think is theirs anyway. The guy that told me my survey vest would make for a perty target for his .338 win mag got my attention.

@williwaw

You're in AK, I assume you told him that the vest would return fire?

Posted by: @williwaw

The guy that told me my survey vest would make for a perty target for his .338 win mag got my attention.

I dealt with that in both AK and TX. So far haven't had it happen much in WA. Most of the time if they are blustering like that, they're all talk. Still, you can be 100% right and 100% dead, so it's best to err on the side of caution.

I much prefer to let the client handle right of entry, especially on public works projects. They've got more clout than me, and I have enough on my plate.

On the very few occasions where we really needed that monument and got both the client and the sheriff involved, it was fun to watch law enforcement patiently explain to Armchair Rambo that they actually do not live in a post-apocalyptic doomsday scenario, nor do they have a God-given right to murder someone to soothe their insecurities.

How do you know if you have permission unless you walk up and knock on the door??ÿ Go ask, this guy probably just doesn't want uninvited hunters on his property.

@dmyhill Except for in bear country I don't carry. It's a safe bet I'm going to be outgunned just about anywhere I go and they will have the drop on me. They'll have to shoot an unarmed surveyor in the back while he's running away.

@rover83 99% they're all bluster. It's the 1% that are delusional and off their meds that I worry about and I'd rather find out before than after. They do exist. My predecessor before he came here took two .44s from one.