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It is easy to blame "the USPS" for problems in the operations of our businesses.?ÿ Sometimes, though, the problem may come down to a specific post office as opposed to the system in general.

Case in point.?ÿ Finished a survey on November 30, 2021.?ÿ Finished the plat and other data requested and mailed to client about December 7, 2021.?ÿ Not a big job, so not a big price.?ÿ Early January rolls around and no payment received.?ÿ Nice old guy decides he will be patient and wait for the young couple to put together the money.?ÿ Then, about January 20, I receive a call from them wondering when I am going to send them their plat and an invoice.?ÿ WHAT???ÿ Explain what I had done but they had not received it.?ÿ Turns out that where I had a 4 in their street address it should have been a 3.?ÿ Still, it should have been delivered.?ÿ It had not been returned to me as undeliverable.?ÿ So, about two days later, I send them another envelope with the goods in it and made sure to have a 3 instead of a 4 plus plenty of postage.?ÿ Received a call last evening from them asking if I was ever going to send them their survey??ÿ Neither of the mailings have been returned to me and they haven't been delivered to them.?ÿ I'm thinking Newman from the Seinfeld show has moved to their town and is their letter carrier.?ÿ I will be meeting with them, in person, tonight.

For those who never followed Seinfeld, there was an episode where Jerry discovers Newman, the mailman, has not been delivering all the mail.?ÿ He had a room or a storage facility somewhere that contained all of the heavy, junk mail that wasn't worth delivering in the first place.?ÿ Made his work days much better and easier.


 
Posted : February 10, 2022 12:36 pm
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That's a problem. But in USPS's defense I have previous experience with Canada Post, and USPS is a comparative model of efficiency.?ÿ ?ÿThe joke went that Canada Post's air mail planes were so amazing they could stay in the air for 2 weeks without refueling.

It seems that?ÿ a policy of following up mailed deliveries with a phone call is in order. It is very possible that your clients mail is being stolen.

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Posted : February 10, 2022 12:48 pm
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In Juneau, we were certain that our carrier didn't understand the alphabet (or might have been as lazy as Newman) we were the middle unit of a triplex (unit B, obviously) from the street the units went A B C left to right (even reflected on the mailboxes) we would continually have packages on our porch for the other two, which we would make sure to get it to them.


 
Posted : February 10, 2022 1:05 pm
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@norman-oklahoma?ÿ

You bring up a good point.?ÿ Maybe their neighbor is messing with their mail.?ÿ He was not happy with the results of my survey.?ÿ I happen to know that young fellow and also know his mother is Postmaster of a different city.?ÿ Surely he understands the penalties for messing with the USPS.?ÿ However, he would need to be home around the time of delivery so as to slip out and go through their mailbox before they had a chance to pick it up.?ÿ Day after day.


 
Posted : February 10, 2022 1:23 pm
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another government monopoly mismanaged and gone bad.

our local uspo has to be among the worst in the country.

Lots of great mail carriers out there, few well managed offices.


 
Posted : February 11, 2022 7:12 am

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When profit isnƒ??t necessary itƒ??s not always the most qualified that get promoted to management positions. Through taxation the government redistributes wealth to those who work and those who donƒ??t. ?ÿI donƒ??t work directly for government but I still get a little milk on my chin. ?ÿHard to escape it anymore because of its size and scope.


 
Posted : February 11, 2022 8:21 am
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Posted by: @holy-cow

Turns out that where I had a 4 in their street address it should have been a 3.?ÿ Still, it should have been delivered

Oh Brother, you should have just blamed the rodman for your screw up instead of USPS. ?????ÿ


 
Posted : February 11, 2022 8:40 am
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I've felt for a while that the USPS should be dissolved.?ÿ

It was necessary when it was implemented and needed the backing of the Federal gov't.?ÿ But now, it's just a hackerama, and unnecessary.?ÿ Private companies like UPS and FedEx can do the job of delivering packages and letters when absolutely necessary.?ÿ

I rarely get mail anyway, since all my bills are done online.?ÿ The only thing I really get is junk mail.


 
Posted : February 11, 2022 9:54 am
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@jph bad idea, extremely bad idea. The PO has been deliberately undermined by the wealthy owners of this country.

why not just hand over everything to billionaires, they give us such great stuff except for Windows and Facebook and just about everything they touch. Amazon is even talking about bringing back the company town.

FedEx and UPS have been bad lately too.


 
Posted : February 11, 2022 10:36 am
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I forgot to mention the unfriendly neighbor is also an attorney. (Signal the melodrama hissing and booing.)

As I hand-delivered the goods this morning (and got paid) I made a point to stop in at their post office for a chat about missing mail.?ÿ Unfortunately, the very friendly and nice young lady handling that small town?ÿ facility was substituting for the regular Postmaster who is out with Covid.?ÿ Good thing this was one the route to go to the courthouse I have been needing to visit.?ÿ That post office is located in the end of a large metal building owned by a heating and air contractor who occupies the remainder of the building.?ÿ All small town post offices in this area are in rented space with the exception of a few in towns with a population that once exceeded 10,000.


 
Posted : February 11, 2022 10:57 am

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@dave-karoly?ÿ

Competition makes things better.?ÿ There is no real competition for the PO.?ÿ And where it had existed with packages, the USPS was subsidized to make their packages cheaper.?ÿ They run at a loss.?ÿ Time to go


 
Posted : February 11, 2022 11:04 am
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We regularly receive items in our mail box that are UPS shipments that have been dropped off at our local post office for final delivery.?ÿ Obviously UPS and USPS have some sort of agreement on doing this.


 
Posted : February 11, 2022 11:07 am
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I have seen post office trucks delivering something in our neighborhood on Sundays. Definitely not running a route.


 
Posted : February 11, 2022 11:13 am
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Posted by: @holy-cow

We regularly receive items in our mail box that are UPS shipments that have been dropped off at our local post office for final delivery.?ÿ Obviously UPS and USPS have some sort of agreement on doing this.

...the "last mile" is shunted off to the USPS, as it is heavily subsidized and also the most expensive...

What you are observing is Bezos or Walmart transferring tax money to their accounts.


 
Posted : February 11, 2022 11:13 am
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@dmyhill?ÿ

Bezos is a possibility at our house.?ÿ Walmart is a flat out no way, no how.?ÿ Stopped doing business with them over 15 years ago.


 
Posted : February 11, 2022 11:17 am

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Posted by: @dmyhill
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We regularly receive items in our mail box that are UPS shipments that have been dropped off at our local post office for final delivery.?ÿ Obviously UPS and USPS have some sort of agreement on doing this.

...the "last mile" is shunted off to the USPS, as it is heavily subsidized and also the most expensive...

What you are observing is Bezos or Walmart transferring tax money to their accounts.

  • Even more reason to get rid of the postal service. ?ÿItƒ??s also time to stop the double dipping by retired public sector employees. ?ÿ

 
Posted : February 11, 2022 11:23 am
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You can skip using the post office if you don't like it and deliver your mail yourself.

I sure won't walk a letter to New York from California for 53 cents.


 
Posted : February 11, 2022 12:25 pm
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And if the USPO closes, neither will the private carriers.


 
Posted : February 11, 2022 12:30 pm
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The postal service pragmatically is a service provided by the government.


 
Posted : February 11, 2022 12:33 pm
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I used to think the USPS "lost" money.?ÿ Then I read up on it.

Basically the USPS is designed to lose money.?ÿ It is NOT, and never has been a for profit enterprise.?ÿ It is designed to cost money because it is an agency that provides a service to American citizens. It is a federal agency that operates on a budget.?ÿ A budget, I night add, that is subject to Congress's three card monty style of budget balancing.?ÿ The USPS can't even fix it's own rates and doesn't even get any of the revenues generated by the service it provides.

Lord help us when politicians approach operating a government like a business with profits in mind.?ÿ It never works.?ÿ Can you imagine what this world would be like if the IRS started wanting to turn a profit???!!


 
Posted : February 11, 2022 12:57 pm

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