2 people, perfectly fine people. And they have a boundary problem. Now, I've surveyed the whole 40, and divided it into a couple of parcels. There is NO DOUBT where the lines are. They did not like the location of one line. Ok, they agreed on a new location, and one called me. I surveyed it. Before I made it home, cell phone rings. I'm called back, to move it!?ÿ
Real estate has the potential to bring out the "used car salesman", in otherwise perfectly normal people. Church people at that!
If you don't wear asbestos underwear, go into a different profession.
Nate
Church people at that!
I call those, ??churchies.?
It's never about the line; it's always about Karen, and she lives on both sides of the fence.
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Property lines bring out the primal instincts of nearly all people to defend their ??territory?? or whatever they perceive that to be. Anything that even remotely threatens the sanctity of those boundaries is likely to be met with more of an emotional than rational reaction. I??m no psychologist but I often find myself playing one dealing with people over these kind of issues. Just one more hat we have to wear.
Just because I'm paranoid, doesn't mean they aren't out to get me.
Did Tim "The Toolman" Taylor ever have an episode where he disputed the property line with Mr. Wilson Wilson Wilson??ÿ Wilson, of course, would have been able to provide a great oratory on the history of surveying.
So true.?ÿ The reaction to a perceived threat from any sort of encroachment upon one's property at times can trigger a visceral reaction from even usually timid folks.?ÿ Dealing with the initial confrontation is probably one of the trickier acquired talents surveyors possess.
It helps to practice.?ÿ To refresh oneself in the art of thinking quickly on your feet in a diplomatic manner one might try jumping a fence and startling a sleeping rottweiler and a pit bull with a litter of pups.?ÿ Once you've mastered that you could probably move on to humans with some level of confidence.?ÿ 😉
Perhaps Tim's name should have been Dennis, ala Dennis the Menace.?ÿ Dennis was always calling out for Mr. Wilson, his next door neighbor.
It helps to practice.?ÿ
Umm...jumpin' over the fence is usually no big deal, how to jump BACK OVER the thing is mandatory practice along with how to cauterize arterial hemorrhages in the field. Just sayin' ???? ?ÿ
@dougie?ÿ
You're a better man than me ...I would have used the arlo Camera footage to ident the invoke the worst neighbor in the universe warfare. Of course, utilizing all of the current covenant and local municipal laws as my boundaries,(see what I did there... ???? ???? ???? ??? ???? ) And make their lives a living hell in the war they started, and will not be able to finish.
Maybe I should have gone to law school..... ???? ???? ??? ??? ?????ÿ
@dougie?ÿ
I'd respond by telling them I wasn't planning on selling in the near future.?ÿ But I'd be sure to get the yard maintenance done if I did.
2 people, perfectly fine people. And they have a boundary problem.
Land, especially the home, seems to trigger the fight or flight "lower" brain. That part of the brain doesn't do logic and complex thinking.?ÿ
I recognized this one day and has gone a long way to helping me understand what is happening. Doesn't make them right, but it explains actions that outsiders consider to be unreasonable.?ÿ
My response is to calm their fears and modify the perspective. I say modify, because changing a mind is difficult.?ÿ
When you KNOW where the boundary is sometimes it doesn't matter what you KNOW when it doesn't line up with the instinctual response of a person who's brain is telling them that they are defending the home.
@dmyhill?ÿ
Ironically, I was having a heated debate about the topic of the numbers in surveying, and was trying to explain simply that the numbers don't care, they aren't emotionally attached to anything. However people latch onto what they know, or what they think they know or believe, and then numbers take on a wholly different perspective because they are dragged into an arena where they don't want or need to be.
Education of the process and procedures of survey and boundaries etc are so far removed from people and obfuscated or even intentionally misrepresented, that, like every thing else today, truth is set aside so loud and bombastic is more the course. The results are never going to be good when emotionally out of control people are involved.
Without lots of training, human beings are poor at numbers in general, and absolutely awful at statistics in particular.
Also, let's not forget that Brandolini's law is always in effect when dealing with emotional outbursts about complex matters, which makes it doubly tiring and depressing for those of us trying to do the right thing.
My fiancee and I just bought a house on a ~1 acre lot. It's surrounded by hayfield on all sides (luckily). The seller admitted to mowing beyond the property but I feel like he may have been encroaching further and further over the years. The owner of said hayfield lives 2 houses over and from his backyard he can see me mowing our back yard and staking the property line (once I get to it).
Maybe he really doesn't care because all they do is cut hay once or twice a year, but it is his property either way. I have a rough idea now that I have the survey, but I think I may just slowly encroach less each time I mow, so he doesn't notice, but also doesn't get worried about me trying to take more of his property than the last guy did.?ÿ
@rover83?ÿ
Hard to believe when caught in one of those maelstroms that its only an order of magnitude..maybe Brandolini should be rated like the Richter scale, or Fujitsu, maybe a combination of the two? ???? ?????ÿ
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Why do property lines bring out the worst in people?
Jeees... I dunno.... You commit 40% of everything you earn for most of your working life to hope to pay off the place and you get a little emotional about it.?ÿ