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stan-dardparallel
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The BLM accepted my monument, set theirs and moved mine. In one spot they cemented it and in another they wired it.

They conduct a dependent resurvey and fail to find my two Records of Survey from 3 years prior. They find some but not all of my monuments and call them "no record." They don't bother to do any further research. It's not like I'm 1955 model surveyor. When you come across a newer surveyor's monument and you don't have a record, you investigate further. I guess when you're government, normal rules don't apply.

In another area, they didn't find my monument and created an alternate position for a 1/4 corner. It's only about a 1/2 foot but there's no need for it.

I always thought that BLM surveyors were better than everyone else. I appear to be wrong. Is this sort of thing common?

At least they aren't killing my cattle.


 
Posted : April 30, 2014 5:30 pm
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They found your monuments, called them "no record" and never contacted you???
That should not happen; not in the private sector nor in the public sector.

> I always thought that BLM surveyors were better than everyone else. I appear to be wrong. Is this sort of thing common?
>

The assumption that all BLM surveyors are better than private surveyors is common, unfounded in many situations, but quite common.

The apparent non-effort to investigate corner positions and related monuments by BLM surveyors is uncommon (at least in this area) and should be investigated. You should contact the state director, if that doesn't provide satisfactory results or answers, I'm sure someone here can provide a "higher up the food chain" contact if you need it.


 
Posted : April 30, 2014 10:33 pm
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up here they're pretty good about scrounging thru the record and id'ing everything/everyone. doesn't mean they acceot everything, though...
that first monument description was kind of convoluted (or maybe it's just late.)

"monument firmly set projecting 4inches, lying on granite stone.... nail and washer yadayada.... ????


 
Posted : April 30, 2014 11:51 pm
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> The BLM accepted my monument, set theirs and moved mine.
What they did was accept your positions and upgrade the monuments to brass disks. In the case of the corner they didn't find, well, they didn't find it, and there was no recorded survey, I gather, so .... that's not so great but it happens. What sort of monument was it? Another mag nail and washer? Are you sure it was still there?

Having found your other two monuments they should have called you, nevertheless. But....

> I always thought that BLM surveyors were better than everyone else. I appear to be wrong. Is this sort of thing common?
They work for the government, so they must be the best and the brightest, right?


 
Posted : May 1, 2014 6:54 am
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Contact One or Both of These Guys

Lance Bishop, California Cadastral Branch Chief, lbishop @ blm . gov

Tim Quincy, Field Section Supervisor, tquincy @ blm . gov

Their phone #s can be found here.

I've dealt with Lance on a couple of occasions. He seems like a very reasonable guy and one who is likely to instruct his surveyor to get the records and make the corrections.


 
Posted : May 1, 2014 5:35 pm