I need some help identifying this tree.
It is not a sweet gum, white oak, red oak, live oak, poplar, beech, birch, obviously it is not any pine species, hickory.
I think it is either an ash or a black oak. No leaves were present and they were just beginning to pop out from the buds.
I am leaning towards it being a black oak as I cannot see any of the identifying "x" pattern in the bark that would lend itself to being an ash.
If it helps, this is in Talking Rock, Georgia.
So help a brutha out as this is going to be a property corner for a new lot split.
Does your bark have an ??X? pattern and is deeply furrowed?
I would start with thinking about Sassafras, Black Walnut, and Black Locust. If it is a very mature tree, then look into Tulip Poplar as well.
?ÿ?ÿ?ÿ?ÿ?ÿBreak off a small piece of the bark. Is it red-orange on the underside?
?ÿ?ÿ?ÿ?ÿ?ÿThen you probably are looking at Sassafras. Confirm by smelling the bark, and it should have a distinctive, extremely fragrant smell. Sassafrass is usually a smaller tree that has a crooked trunk.
?ÿ?ÿ?ÿ?ÿ?ÿBreak off a small piece of the bark. Is it deep brown/black on the underside?
?ÿ?ÿ?ÿ?ÿ?ÿThen you are probably looking at Black Walnut. Slice a branch down the middle. It should have a chambered pith.
No leaves were present and they were just beginning to pop out from the buds
FWIW....buds are the most reliable element to identify deciduous trees by, since they're the least affected by external environmental influences. ?ÿ
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On ash the branching is opposite; smaller branches occur opposite each other on the parent branch, rather than alternate.?ÿ MADCAP Horse:?ÿ MapleAshDogwoodCaprifoliacae are all opposite, the rest- including black oak - branch alternately.
I think that the cambium layer immediately under the bark is bright yellow on black oak.
YMMV,
SS
Not sassafras, not black walnut not tulip poplar.
That tree was about 8" in diameter there were others in the area the same size or slightly larger. Some were growing generally straight for about 40 feet while others were growing in a group of 2 or 3 and spreading out.
Sorry I didn't think to snap a picture of the buds. All other leaves on all the other tree species were out but none of the leaves on any of these were out yet.
There's an APP on your phone that can identify...plants. Just snap a picture and it will tell you what it is.
Or, search TreeBarkID.com
Ash, or persimmon.
2 cents
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Black oak?ÿ
You could avoid the conundrum by landing an iron as the corner right next to the tree
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Nate, you might be onto something the bark is identical to a persimmon. I had completely ignored persimmon trees but I will try to confirm it.
I don' think it is an ash though. The bark is sorta similar to a black oak but persimmon matches perfectly.
Looks like a sassafras to me.
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It is a live tree as opposed to a dead tree. ?ÿWithout fruit to fall off and hit me on the head that is as close as I will get. ?ÿSorry.
Id Trees by the bark is the last resort, you need to use the Leaves, flowers, buds, etc... also you need to look at the full Tree, not the lower bark section, do you have any more pics of the Tree?
I know this is at best secondary (or maybe tertiary) evidence but are there any whole dead leaves on the ground? Still stuck to a branch?
I know this is at best secondary (or maybe tertiary) evidence but are there any whole dead leaves on the ground? Still stuck to a branch?
Great point. We can see some on the ground, in the background. And they seem to exclude Black Walnut, Sassafras, and Locust, etc. They appear consistent with Black Oak.?ÿ
Don't bet on my eyesight these days, but looks like persimmon to me
I will be back there tomorrow and will get more pictures. Heck I may even set an offset pin to avoid the darned confusion.
looks like a sourwood to me, but might be persimmon.?ÿ Hard to tell 4 sure w/o leaves.
I am with Nate, Common Persimmon.
In a few days you will have some fresh leaves to look at, but judging from all the old oak leaves on the ground........