A jig-saw puzzle made by blind men with dull saws. As I sometimes describe it. I loved that comment.
lets get our terms straight first. cad operators are technicians, not professionals.
My reaction to pincushions is...
Quit changing the danged answer!
> lets get our terms straight first. cad operators are technicians, not professionals.
In some cases, they're both. There ARE licensed Land Surveyors who know how to use CAD....
They can call themselves ...
Kings of CAD for all I care as long as they don't rubbersheet my points.
I agree that the ever changing answer is infuriating, but the blunders are just as bad. If I find a discrepency between 2 lots, I investigate. Perhaps there is evidence used for the other lot that would change my own determination.
The pincushion issue - Quote of the Day
"I asked the surveyor I was working with this past summer why his corner was not the same as the surveyors that did the lot next door just a few months ago. The reply was I'm doing the survey for this lot, he did his for the other lot."
The pincushion issue - Quote of the Day
That was my favorite too!
50 years from now I wonder how the GIS and Cadd tech's work will be scrutinized. It was an interesting read to say the least.
RRRRRREEEEEEEEEEEAAAAAAAALLLLLLLLLLYYYYYYYYYYY?!
Let's get our terminology straight please. CAD operators are not registered or licensed but thet are indeed professionals. Look the term up before misusing it.
Most CAD techs that I know have more school trainning in their field than those they work for. At this time, in my area, a college degree is not required to be a surveyor, BUT, we will not hire any CAD tech that does not have, as a minimum, an Associates Degree in drafting and design Technology with an emphasis in surveying.
I am in no way putting down surveyors. Just don't be so cavalier about the CAD techs. In MANY cases they save your butt when they find the error you missed. It's a team effort. That's what being a "professional" is really about.
You better believe it will be looked at closely !
The CAD techs efforts are the only thing the client sees. The plat is sent to the client. They rarely, or never, see the field notes or comps. The CAD techs efforts that you stamp is all that is ever recorded and/or seen by the client. That guy can make or break you. He can dazzle them with brilliance or baffle them with bull snit!!
> RRRRRREEEEEEEEEEEAAAAAAAALLLLLLLLLLYYYYYYYYYYY?!
> Let's get our terminology straight please. CAD operators are not registered or licensed but thet are indeed professionals. Look the term up before misusing it.
> Most CAD techs that I know have more school trainning in their field than those they work for. At this time, in my area, a college degree is not required to be a surveyor, BUT, we will not hire any CAD tech that does not have, as a minimum, an Associates Degree in drafting and design Technology with an emphasis in surveying.
> I am in no way putting down surveyors. Just don't be so cavalier about the CAD techs. In MANY cases they save your butt when they find the error you missed. It's a team effort. That's what being a "professional" is really about.
I 100% agree, i didn't want to respond earlier because i wouldn't have been this nice.
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The CAD techs efforts are the only thing the client sees.
cptdent. I must with the utmost respect disagree. The things the client sees most and cares about most are the monuments in the ground.
I have had the pleasure of dealing with "professional pincushioners" that claim the DOT is all screwed up with their surveys. The "pro's" end up giving a comment about their CAD skills as being self-taught, yet nobody else can be as smart and correct as they are based on what their CAD program pucked out to them.
> That guy can make or break you. He can dazzle them with brilliance or baffle them with bull!!
I tend to think that what the client see's on the map is what I want to represent to them and everyone else. In the beginning of a working relationship between me and any drafter or tech, there is going to be some trial and error and lots of corrections. Eventually the end product is crafted to what I want it to be.;-) With an extra helping of Bull!:-P
"....error and lots of corrections." A Papermate moment!
btw...I never considered a cad tech a professional. But I have considered a good one essential!
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Whats everyones take on this scenario (URBAN AREA - every inch counts)
Client hires me to stake the property corners for some kind of construction.(fence bldg, setbacks, neighbor war etc)
I find an uncalled for ip/w tack 0.13 off the my final boundary resolution.
This is not an original monument (there are none in the area)
What do I do for my client
1. set the corner where I find it to be 0.13 away from another point
or
2. tell them I can't set it but this point is "real close"
#2 does not sit well with any clients I have come across