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(@richard-germiller)
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How come when we create a drawing for recordation we are required, by state law, to have no text less than 0.1" in height, yet some recorders office stamps have a font size so small th at when it's printed on and 8 1/2 X 11 sheet it is barely readable (at least to my tired old eyes)

Here's a size comparison, the left is 0.1"

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Posted : February 12, 2025 1:45 pm
hi-staker
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1. Rules for thee, but not for me.

2. Do as I say, not as I do.

Both of those are mandatory credos for all government agencies.

 
Posted : February 13, 2025 9:25 am
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Norman_Oklahoma
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At least a part of it is that the rules dictating 0.08" or 0.10" or whatever sized text are an artifact of a day when text was hand drawn, all drawings were presented on paper, and what you saw was what you got.  Nowadays we can zoom in on the digital image as necessary to make it big enough to see, almost whatever the state of our vision might be, and no matter what the size the original.

Think of all the microdot sized metadata that could be included in a drawing. All sorts of coordinate and coordinate quality data, date and time of recovery, manner of making the ties,etc. You could have photographic images of a monument embedded within the monument symbol block. Just zoom in until it fills your screen.     

 
Posted : February 13, 2025 2:58 pm
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GaryG
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Posted by: @norman-oklahoma

At least a part of it is that the rules dictating 0.08" or 0.10" or whatever sized text are an artifact of a day when text was hand drawn, all drawings were presented on paper, and what you saw was what you got.  Nowadays we can zoom in on the digital image as necessary to make it big enough to see, almost whatever the state of our vision might be, and no matter what the size the original.

Think of all the microdot sized metadata that could be included in a drawing. All sorts of coordinate and coordinate quality data, date and time of recovery, manner of making the ties,etc. You could have photographic images of a monument embedded within the monument symbol block. Just zoom in until it fills your screen.     

Now that is a cool idea!

 

 
Posted : February 13, 2025 4:10 pm
john-putnam
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@norman-oklahoma 

I have most of that information tied to cogo points via 'User-defined Classification Properties' in C3D.  My clients can view it all in the drawing.  Unfortunately, the meta-data does not follow the point if you copy and paste them between drawings.

 
Posted : February 14, 2025 9:05 am

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I thought of another question that seems silly, but I'm also genuinely curious.

I don't know if there's a term for this, but has a city ever annexed property and then later on abandoned it or somehow returned it to the county?

 
Posted : February 14, 2025 1:13 pm
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@bstrand In Kentucky, there is a section of statute within the area covering annexations labeled "Reduction of boundaries".  It provides a process whereby a city can define an area of the current city boundary which will be removed from the city and become an unincorporated part of the county again.

A quick look found an instance in a nearby county that was referred to as a "Deannexation".

 
Posted : February 14, 2025 1:36 pm
holy-cow
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I have seen this deannexation occur in several cities.  Usually, it goes back to the original plat covering an entire property with blocks and streets, etc. with no thought of ever developing the entire property due to the real world constraints of flood areas over much of the plat.

 
Posted : February 14, 2025 1:59 pm
Norman_Oklahoma
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Posted by: @bstrand

has a city ever annexed property and then later on abandoned it or somehow returned it to the county?

Certainly there are instances of towns being dis-incorporated, it's properties thus being returned to the county. Picher, Oklahoma is one example that I have an awareness of.

 
Posted : February 14, 2025 2:00 pm
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Interesting.  I haven't run across an example of it myself, but good to know it can happen.

 
Posted : February 14, 2025 3:25 pm

thebionicman
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@bstrand Idaho allows deannexation by a County or City through their ordinance process. Statutes describe the process for districts but are oddly silent on municipal deannexation.

A Google search for 'Idaho deannexation law' gave results that should be helpful.

 
Posted : February 15, 2025 10:41 am