I've got 83 RW monuments to set on a street job in Murray, Ky. Ky. now requires these.
This is what happens when the water lines are not as deep as they are supposed to be.
Can almost see the rainbow.:):):)
Hmmm. I thought all the pipes were full of bourbon down there! (probably just wishful thinking on my part...)
One time I was driving a rebar, I hear tink tink. Look up, I'm in line with a hydrant 3' away, okay that one isn't going any deeper.
BajaOR, post: 415650, member: 9139 wrote: Hmmm. I thought all the pipes were full of bourbon down there! (probably just wishful thinking on my part...)
Wrong end of the state.
We're going through the 811, One Call thing in Mississippi. It was brought to our attention if we surveyors didn't call we would be liable for the repair. But if we called and the utilities weren't located within 5 day ( I think that was the time limit?) we were free to drive away. But we had to file a complaint before driving any pins. SUCKS! But it is what it is. So now surveyors have to file a One Call locate utilities before we start a job. Changes my way of thinking. And puts me 10 days to 2 weeks behind starting a survey.
So the lawyers want to know if the waterline is in public or private property?
Jules J., post: 415656, member: 444 wrote: We're going through the 811, One Call thing in Mississippi. It was brought to our attention if we surveyors didn't call we would be liable for the repair. But if we called and the utilities weren't located within 5 day ( I think that was the time limit?) we were free to drive away. But we had to file a complaint before driving any pins. SUCKS! But it is what it is. So now surveyors have to file a One Call locate utilities before we start a job. Changes my way of thinking. And puts me 10 days to 2 weeks behind starting a survey.
The pipe tend to make the monument bounce...
I guess upside is the transformer didn't short and blow knocking out the power to grannie's ventilator. I drove a rebar one time that nicked a buried power line. They like place those things near property corners so they can service 2 lots with one ground based transformer. Probably would have killed me had I hit it dead on.
Just because I'm paranoid, doesn't mean they aren't out to get me.
Williwaw, post: 415664, member: 7066 wrote: I guess upside is the transformer didn't short and blow knocking out the power to grannie's ventilator. I drove a rebar one time that nicked a buried power line. They like place those things near property corners so they can service 2 lots with one ground based transformer. Probably would have killed me had I hit it dead on.
I had a crew that was pussy-footing around with a tree root at the bottom a 2' deep hole where we were looking for a pin. I finally got frustrated and grabbed the long handled shovel and showed those wimps how to cut though a tree root...
Trouble was it was a buried electric service to a boat dock. The explosion was like having a couple of shotgun shells go off all at once. We were all blinded by the dirt flying into our face. I was actually knocked backwards onto my ass.
What was left of the shovel head was still smoking...I'm lucky I didn't get killed.
Nate The Surveyor, post: 415663, member: 291 wrote: The pipe tend to make the monument bounce...
Most of Calloway Co. is red gravel, and every monument that hits in original ground is a bear to drive. They are 30" long and are supposed to end up flush with the ground, that one still liked about a foot. Help was actually driving it. Must have just cracked the pipe, it started out just bubbling up, kept getting a little more pressure on it, and finally blew gravel all over the place.
Told him "yank that thing out and let's get the hell out of here". Then I called the foreman so he could deal with the water department. They had already broke it once when they built that retaining wall on the right.
eddycreek, post: 415668, member: 501 wrote: Most of Calloway Co. is red gravel, and every monument that hits in original ground is a bear to drive. They are 30" long and are supposed to end up flush with the ground, that one still liked about a foot. Help was actually driving it. Must have just cracked the pipe, it started out just bubbling up, kept getting a little more pressure on it, and finally blew gravel all over the place.
Told him "yank that thing out and let's get the hell out of here". Then I called the foreman so he could deal with the water department. They had already broke it once when they built that retaining wall on the right.
Yea! That's what I use to do. Get the HELL OUT OF THERE! Now they investigate the matter! :eek:!
Well at least it wasn't a high pressure gas line.
Years back I was setting a DNA control station. 12"dia x 36" deep then filled with concrete. Crew guy was digging way too slow, so I grab the rock bar to show him how it's done. About a foot later I'm giving it all I had. Then I hear a stomach turning "Clang". Hmmm...had to be a rock since all the utility markings were 5-6' away. So then I really get into to it. I finally give up and tell the crew guy to clear some dirt out of the hole. And what did we see? The shiny, but dented, top of a 12" high pressure gas line. Needless to say I had quite the conversation with the locator guy.
paden cash, post: 415666, member: 20 wrote: I had a crew that was pussy-footing around with a tree root at the bottom a 2' deep hole where we were looking for a pin. I finally got frustrated and grabbed the long handled shovel and showed those wimps how to cut though a tree root...
Trouble was it was a buried electric service to a boat dock. The explosion was like having a couple of shotgun shells go off all at once. We were all blinded by the dirt flying into our face. I was actually knocked backwards onto my ass.
What was left of the shovel head was still smoking...I'm lucky I didn't get killed.
And most likely they are still telling that story wherever they are. This is what immortality looks like. :>
Williwaw, post: 415664, member: 7066 wrote: I guess upside is the transformer didn't short and blow knocking out the power to grannie's ventilator. I drove a rebar one time that nicked a buried power line. They like place those things near property corners so they can service 2 lots with one ground based transformer. Probably would have killed me had I hit it dead on.
We were surveying through an owner unknown lot, set a 12" nail that nicked an undocumented power line. The club next door and sent photos and videos of the light show that night.
eddycreek, post: 415646, member: 501 wrote: I've got 83 RW monuments to set on a street job in Murray, Ky. Ky. now requires these.
This is what happens when the water lines are not as deep as they are supposed to be.
Not survey related but my baby girl (now 35) got here Master's degree at Murray State. Go Racers.
Andy
In subdivisions in California we would set front property corners on the lot lines produced to the curb or sidewalk. I don't understand why it is not more of a common practice to set front pl's and r/w points on a common offset on the walks or curbs, especially now that we have to call for dig alerts, and un-friendly property owners. Most property owners live (possess) to the back of walk and it became common knowledge that the offset monuments were not marking the r/w in California. I know it was common in California and I have a hard time convincing surveyors in Oregon that it could be a good thing. Jp
The cheapest and easiest thing would be to buy a pipe horn they work real close along the lines of the pin finders you guys already use, prior to digging or driving something in you set the pipe horn transmitter on the ground 40 feet or so away and it broadcasts a signal into the ground "called dropping the box" and then go over the area with the locator and it will alert you if anything metallic is there, even the wire of a plastic line but if there is no wire and it's just plastic you will get no signal. Pipe horns are cheap and do not give digital depths and have features that a full on scanner locator has but are great for blind sweeps over an area before excavation or driving something in. Used ones on ebay $200-$500 new up to $1500 and you can find lots of uses for it once you have one. The time to do a sweep is just a couple minutes and even though you are still supposed to call 811 you might even find things they miss that are not on the as-builts they have.
Worked a job once where this man bought a million dollar home and was tearing it down to build a new house on the lot. The contractor had to tear out the curb and gutter to move the driveway. They utilities had marked the utilities. The phone company had marker their line right along the c&g. Contractor get the backhoe and begins to tear out the c&g and rips up the phone cable. Poured right inside the c&g. Big discussion between the phone company and contractor. I felt sorry for the contractor as he had to pay to replace the phone line at a proper depth.
The client you were working for knew the line was there, the wall/walk are new, and you still set the monument through the pipe? That's a little reckless in my opinion. About 2 years ago I did a ton of work in Kentucky and we were required to go through 811 (one call) for the job before starting any work that involves setting anything or digging anything. It is actually a federal law now. But you are required to notify yourself, see the website www.call811.com. Not getting killed and not killing anyone is the biggest reason.
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